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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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1 Samuel 16:14 Now the Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul ...
Now, the LORD's Spirit had left Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.
Psalms 51:11
11 - Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.
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Does it matter that all these scriptures are BEFORE the Holy Ghost had come?
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
I don't think we truly lose the Holy Ghost once we have received it, so much as we may ignore or neglect God's power and direction in our lives at times. The real error may be in thinking that we get (as in obtain, achieve, or possess) the Holy Ghost. Yes, we receive the Holy Ghost, but in doing so we are not obtaining or possessing God. Rather, we should be yielding to Him so that He can possess or obtain us.
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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I don't understand how one can be re-born again? I also don't understand the mindset that one can lose the gift when the scripture plainly tells us they are given without repentance.
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If the "gift" is defined as an outwardly observable emotional state, then I can see how. Just close your Bible and stop asking such questions and you'll fit in better.
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Does it matter that all these scriptures are BEFORE the Holy Ghost had come?
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Not to the coadster.
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10-04-2010, 10:01 AM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
I have seen those who received the Holy Ghost many years ago, (and perhaps there were those who thought their fire had gone out or died!)
Seen these same ones get involved in a conversation with someone who also received the Holy Ghost many years ago. But when the conversation turned to the subject of when they all received the Holy Ghost, that one that had allowed the fire to die down and the ashes of the years to cover the coals; but when they began to REMEMBER, when the Spirit was fresh and powerful within their souls, they would begin weeping, and the wind of the Spirit would begin to blow those ashes off the embers/coals, the flames would leap up again as fuel (Spirit) was added to the fire!!! I have seen this happen.
Also when hard trials came and they were deperate for an answer, or their loved one had a terminal disease, or when their kids were in trouble, or other. The enemy had convinced them they could not get back to God, or that HE would not hear their cry. But when the wind of the Spirit would begin to blow when they connected with others they knew had not been disconnected, they began to feel the flow of the Spirit once again, and HOPE sprang up!! The flames were getting higher and higher and the fire hotter and hotter. I have seen this happen.
Maybe what was happening at GC was God using some vessels to fan the fire of the HOLY GHOST once again so HOPE would spring up. There will always be those who would rather throw cold water on the fire, lest it get too close them. But there could come a time when things get "cold" in this old world, many willl cry out for the Fire of the HOLY GHOST. How terrible it
would be if there were those who never felt the fire because they were distracted because they were too busy looking at those on the platform they didn't like. The enemy likes to distract. to get our eyes off what God wants to do, by getting our eyes on MAN!
Why not STIR up the GIFT that in within you!
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10-04-2010, 10:16 AM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Does it matter that all these scriptures are BEFORE the Holy Ghost had come?
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Joel2 :28And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
29And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
30And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Genesis 1:2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
How many Holy Spirits, Spirits of God are there?
Even trinitarians say there is just one.
Luke15For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb.
Most Oneness can't discuss the Holy Ghost from Genesis onward. They just mention the Spirit beginning in Acts. Actually Pelthais says Genesis is loaded with falsehoods and error. (not to be taken litterally)
The signs of the baptism of the Holy Ghost is what changes in Acts.
Acts 1:16Men and brethren, this scripture must needs have been fulfilled, which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake before concerning Judas, which was guide to them that took Jesus.
You all cut corners in Home bible studies?
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
I see scriptures that indicates signs of the indwelling of the Holy Ghost not seen before the Comforter returns. I won't accuse any one of false doctrine. I will make you think and ask you to consider some verses that many conveniently don't comment on.
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Originally Posted by Falla39
I have seen those who received the Holy Ghost many years ago, (and perhaps there were those who thought their fire had gone out or died!)
Seen these same ones get involved in a conversation with someone who also received the Holy Ghost many years ago. But when the conversation turned to the subject of when they all received the Holy Ghost, that one that had allowed the fire to die down and the ashes of the years to cover the coals; but when they began to REMEMBER, when the Spirit was fresh and powerful within their souls, they would begin weeping, and the wind of the Spirit would begin to blow those ashes off the embers/coals, the flames would leap up again as fuel (Spirit) was added to the fire!!! I have seen this happen.
Also when hard trials came and they were deperate for an answer, or their loved one had a terminal disease, or when their kids were in trouble, or other. The enemy had convinced them they could not get back to God, or that HE would not hear their cry. But when the wind of the Spirit would begin to blow when they connected with others they knew had not been disconnected, they began to feel the flow of the Spirit once again, and HOPE sprang up!! The flames were getting higher and higher and the fire hotter and hotter. I have seen this happen.
Maybe what was happening at GC was God using some vessels to fan the fire of the HOLY GHOST once again so HOPE would spring up. There will always be those who would rather throw cold water on the fire, lest it get too close them. But there could come a time when things get "cold" in this old world, many willl cry out for the Fire of the HOLY GHOST. How terrible it
would be if there were those who never felt the fire because they were distracted because they were too busy looking at those on the platform they didn't like. The enemy likes to distract. to get our eyes off what God wants to do, by getting our eyes on MAN!
Why not STIR up the GIFT that in within you!
Falla39
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Most Oneness can't discuss the Holy Ghost from Genesis onward. They just mention the Spirit beginning in Acts. Actually Pelthais says Genesis is loaded with falsehoods and error. (not to be taken litterally)
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No. Genesis is loaded with truth. "pelathais said" that coadie is loaded with "falsehoods and error."
Case in point.
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Most Oneness can't discuss the Holy Ghost from Genesis onward. They just mention the Spirit beginning in Acts. Actually Pelthais says Genesis is loaded with falsehoods and error. (not to be taken litterally)
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No. Genesis is loaded with truth. "pelathais said" that coadie is loaded with "falsehoods and error."
Case in point.
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Is coadie saying that Genesis "can not be taken to the shore" (littorally)?
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10-04-2010, 11:31 AM
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Re: How Does One Become Re-filled With The Holy Gh
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Is coadie saying that Genesis "can not be taken to the shore" (littorally)?
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Why should we take what you feel litterally?
When we ask you at what point in Genesis we are to start taking the scripture litterally, You weasel away from an answer. No courage?
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