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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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Oh, I think it does. It says there is still a very ugly bias among many straight people in their views of gays. That's not saying all straights are bad, but it makes a loud statement. Exhibit A, here, would be the fellow here in this thread who's father believe gays were "handicapped in the mind." Yikes.
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And there are some pretty ugly biases among homosexuals regarding straight people (and Christians). Biases are usually based on ignorance, hence my label of "idiot" rather than "straight." Plus, it has been my observation in at least a few cases that those with the most vitriolic responses to certain lifestyles are those who have had their own secret struggles.
There are idiots and extremists in every group. If this were about politics, then we wouldn't say that "conservatives" have a tendency to bomb abortion clinics; we'd say that zealots and extremists have that tendency. I have a problem with abortion clinics, but I'm not inclined to bomb one just because I'm politically and religiously conservative. Only a dolt would show such an inclination.
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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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Im just presenting what might be a man's position, a straight man might not want to shower with a gay man knowing he was gay. If we allowed that why not ask the ladies how they feel if heterosexual men showed with them?
My point is and actually this is what I have hear the military brass say, it should be up to the men. How do they feel about gays in the military? How do they feel about showering with them?
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Sorry for laughing. Couldn't help it.
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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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Im just presenting what might be a man's position, a straight man might not want to shower with a gay man knowing he was gay. If we allowed that why not ask the ladies how they feel if heterosexual men showed with them?
My point is and actually this is what I have hear the military brass say, it should be up to the men. How do they feel about gays in the military? How do they feel about showering with them?
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I'm ex army and wouldn't want a gay guy in my unit.
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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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Sorry for laughing. Couldn't help it.
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Believe it or not I realized when typing that would get some folks bending over in laughter
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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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I don't see how not wanting to stand naked in front of a guy that you know is sexually attracted to men is bias
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It might depend on just how attractive I'm feeling that day. 
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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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Good grief. I'm trying to behave in my comeback but a statement like this makes it difficult!
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Let it rip potato chip!! I can take it. It's a forum.
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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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I'm ex army and wouldn't want a gay guy in my unit.
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Yes because of showering with them?
What about my other point regarding capacity?
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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Believe it or not I realized when typing that would get some folks bending over in laughter
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The imagery wasn't real good.
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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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Stop it. 
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Re: Don't Ask....Don't Tell. Good Policy?
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I'm ex army and wouldn't want a gay guy in my unit.
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Sounds very bigoted. Can you give an explanation that goes beyond your "Mentally handicapped" theory?
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