Apostolic Friends Forum
Tab Menu 1
Go Back   Apostolic Friends Forum > The Fellowship Hall > Fellowship Hall
Facebook

Notices

Fellowship Hall The place to go for Fellowship & Fun!


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 02-02-2011, 08:18 AM
CC1's Avatar
CC1 CC1 is offline
Administrator


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,848
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas View Post
They are actually pretty good, for bluegrass
They are better than pretty good. The Clark boys are great. My kids were part of the taping of a Country Music special for teens back around 2000 at the Wildhorse in Nashville and that is where I first saw and heard them. Back then they were the "Clark Family Experience".

They had a very bad record deal with Curb records. Had great success as the opening act for major country artists but it took Curb two or three years to bring out their first CD and then it did not do well.

ABC actually looked at doing a tv series with them but didn't pick it up. They set a legal precedent by being the first musical artists to get out of a record deal by including it in their bankruptcy filing.

For a long time I thought maybe Carrie Underwood and one of the boys were romantically involved as you never saw her sing without him behind or beside her playing his "fiddle" (Tennessee talk).
__________________
"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"

Titus2woman on AF
F


"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 02-02-2011, 08:32 AM
ReformedDave's Avatar
ReformedDave ReformedDave is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,684
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

It's amazing how people fall for the 'slight of mind' tactics. Expectations, experience, and desperation fuel this. Prax, your post nailed it.
__________________
"I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it."

- Groucho Marx
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 02-02-2011, 08:40 AM
mfblume's Avatar
mfblume mfblume is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Portage la Prairie, MB CANADA
Posts: 38,161
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas View Post
No disrespect brother Mike but I don't know what went on with your situation but I feel like some others do when I am in one of these "services"..that there are tricks of the trade these men use. In fact the next service he allowed his son to work over the crowd. It seemed like he was trained to do exactly what his dad did.
We need to be careful about this sort of thing. If God is really doing this, and people are dissing it, then I think they may in hot water with the Lord. Yes, there are fakes, but it is true when Christ said "By reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of." We can throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Let me tell you what happened to me. I noted how Freddy nailed three extremely specific issues in my life when he prayed for me that were by no means generalizations that anyone could guess. I had been praying for three things. Before I got into ministry, having been called of God to preach, I was receiving thoughts from the Lord that I could not articulate. I could not put them into words. I could not preach them! (I learned years later from a book about ministering the Word that revelation will come to your spirit, and if you are not matured in hearing from the Lord your mind cannot "translate" what your spirit is picking up. That was exactly what I was experiencing. I cannot think of a better way to describe it.) So I prayed for this.

Secondly, I wanted to get more insight and revelation from the Bible as I studied it.

Thirdly, I had actually prayed for healing for a man with whom I worked in the sign shop where I painted signs. He was healed instantly! When my boss complained of a migraine, I offered prayer for him, and he told me to go for it. I prayed and he was not healed. I went home all discouraged and told the Lord I did not want to bring reproach to Him by praying for someone and them not being healed, especially a sinner. Let me know when and when not to pray for people.

So, I went to one of Freddy's meetings shortly after. He called me out of the congregation and told me he was going to pray for three things. My eyes, my mouth and my hand. he proceeded to explain that the reason he was praying for my mouth was because I was desiring to SPEAK God's Word, and he said he saw M-I-N-I-S-T-R-Y written all over me. He tried to explain what he meant, and said I was wanting to say what God was giving me, and asked if I knew what he meant. I said, "OH YES I DO!" I was astounded. That was one of the very things I specifcally prayed about.

Then he said he would pray for my eyes because I was wanting to SEE in the Bible and the reading of God's word. I was wanting God to show me things in the Word. Again, I almost fell on the floor! I prayed PRECISELY for that!

Thirdly he prayed for my hands because he said I wanted to know when to pray for people for healing and when not to pray.

My oh my, I could not believe how he specifically nailed the very three things I distinctly had been praying about. It really gave me an awareness of how GOD HEARS OUR PRAYERS!

So, he grabbed my hand and prayed, and put his hand on my eyes and prayed for me to see revelation, and put his hand on my mouth to pray that I would speak what God gives me to speak.

Later, I was in a service where I suddenly felt God wanted someone to be prayed for for healing. Recall the third thing I prayed for. I spoke it out when the song service had a lull and they were getting ready to sing again, and said, "Someone here needs prayer for healing." Then suddenly more words came to me after I said that, which were, "In fact someone came here and specifically asked God to heal them in this very service." We were having house meetings with about 8 people! No crowd to enhance generalization.

The pastors wife starting weeping and said she was suffering and specifically asked God to tell someone in that service to pray for her. We prayed, and she told us the next service she had not been sleeping in weeks, and that night i prayed for her was the first night she slept well in so long!

My bible studies advanced as I studied and would get illumination from the Word. I began to preach what God was putting in my heart with ease! It all came to pass!

We have seen so little of this sort of thing, that the first thing people do is doubt it. "Charlatans!", we holler. Well,m you can holler all you want, but I know what I experienced.

I was also in a meeting where he ministered and he called out a young man and said, "Sir, you have had open heart surgery." The guy nodded and said yes.

While we visited with Freddy at his house later that day, a minister called him up and said how he doubted that sort ministry just as I see here on this forum. He said he would doubt no more because when Freddy called out that guy and said he had open heart surgery, that was nothing general and simply far too uncommon for Freddy to be guessing and pulling tricks.

All true, folks! I solidly believe in this.

I personally have been used of God as well in this to an extent.

One day while ministering, I prayed for a man and it suddenly came to me that he was having a terrible time at his workplace with one specific individual who was tormenting him about his christianity. I told him God would help him with that.

I thought to myself, BOYS, I hope I was right! Phew. The guy never indicated whether I was right or not.

So I went and came back in a few weeks to preach in the same church. The same man came up in the prayer line and said he needed more prayer about that guy he was working with who was pestering him so much about his Christianity. PRAISE GOD!

Yes there are the fakes, but I experienced this personally, and Freddy nailed three things one after the other that were far from guesswork and generalizations. Do not cast out the true just because we've heard of some fakes.
__________________
...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.

"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."

Last edited by mfblume; 02-02-2011 at 09:53 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 02-02-2011, 11:39 AM
canam canam is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,270
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxeas View Post
They are actually pretty good, for bluegrass
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 02-02-2011, 11:49 AM
Theophil's Avatar
Theophil Theophil is offline
Psalm 121


 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Not of this world
Posts: 836
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReformedDave View Post
FC is as phony as they come......
That is untrue. YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND CEASE SLANDERING A MAN OF GOD.
__________________
13 You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. 14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other. Galatians 5:13-15 (NIV)
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 02-02-2011, 11:52 AM
Hoovie's Avatar
Hoovie Hoovie is offline
Supercalifragilisticexpiali...


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 19,197
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

Let's just say it's complicated.
__________________
"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005

I am a firm believer in the Old Paths

Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945

"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 02-02-2011, 11:55 AM
canam canam is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,270
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

Agreed MFB ,ive seen it from all angles i guess,my dad(upc) told how FC mailed him a piece of cloth and said if he mailed him some money he would be financially blessed (dad didnt ,he said FC was the only one who would be blessed) They used to attend the same church before FC was married .I was told 3rd hand by family that when they attended his tent meetings (used to travel with a trailer and tent towed by a caddy)that he told one lady she had a growth(she was preggie and not showing)and he told a man he had cancer, after he had been told by someone else before the service. Then i saw him pray for my pastor and he nailed some things spot on,so i dont know what to think ,i believe it can happen and used to and do still enjoy , the Bro's Bustard minstries.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 02-02-2011, 12:00 PM
canam canam is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,270
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReformedDave View Post
FC is as phony as they come......
I dont believe that, he can be wrong at times, but he aint a phony ,he is a good man to my knowledge and sincere and considers himself OP even though both he and his wife attended Zion Bible college i believe. He is no fraud for sure IMO!
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 02-02-2011, 12:03 PM
ReformedDave's Avatar
ReformedDave ReformedDave is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 2,684
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

Quote:
Originally Posted by canam View Post
I dont believe that, he can be wrong at times, but he aint a phony ,he is a good man to my knowledge and sincere and considers himself OP even though both he and his wife attended Zion Bible college i believe. He is no fraud for sure IMO!
I understand your conflict but since I've 'stepped back' I've come to vastly different conclusions.
__________________
"I have had a perfectly wonderful evening, but this wasn't it."

- Groucho Marx
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 02-02-2011, 12:05 PM
canam canam is offline
Registered Member


 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 3,270
Re: Freddy Clark Live at San Diego

Quote:
Originally Posted by CC1 View Post
They are better than pretty good. The Clark boys are great. My kids were part of the taping of a Country Music special for teens back around 2000 at the Wildhorse in Nashville and that is where I first saw and heard them. Back then they were the "Clark Family Experience".

They had a very bad record deal with Curb records. Had great success as the opening act for major country artists but it took Curb two or three years to bring out their first CD and then it did not do well.

ABC actually looked at doing a tv series with them but didn't pick it up. They set a legal precedent by being the first musical artists to get out of a record deal by including it in their bankruptcy filing.

For a long time I thought maybe Carrie Underwood and one of the boys were romantically involved as you never saw her sing without him behind or beside her playing his "fiddle" (Tennessee talk).
Thought the same thing (with the lead singer)but nope, he is married and so is Carrie now.She is so smokin, but his wife is very pretty too.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hi new here at AFF from San Diego, CA diane777 The Welcome Mat 9 07-17-2010 02:00 AM
So This Is What The Clark Brothers Are Up To!! CC1 Fellowship Hall 72 05-02-2010 01:29 PM
Revival Tabernacle San Diego Ca Levi The Tab 10 01-08-2010 10:29 AM
Nathan Clark steve p The Music Room 6 04-30-2008 03:13 PM
Freddy Clark's Kids staysharp Fellowship Hall 35 04-11-2008 06:42 PM

 
User Infomation
Your Avatar

Latest Threads
- by Salome
- by Amanah

Help Support AFF!

Advertisement




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.