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02-25-2011, 01:11 PM
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Austin
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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I believe the work of the cross allowed for the immortalization of our bodies in the future, and that effecting it is not necessary for the time being. The cross paid for it, but it will kick into effect in our future. I think God makes use of our mortal bodies that still house sin for the purpose of maturing us,. etc. in spirit. It makes us battle and put down this flesh and deny it. So, in effect, the cross paid for it all, including the penalty of physical death, but the redemption of the body is not for this time yet due to His purposes in taking advantage of it for reasons beyond the scope of just dealing with death.
Romans 8:23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
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Ok. I understand what you are saying.I agree the time has not come. But I believe in an appointed time when it will. Not as though I have attained unto it, nor have I known any other that has. But I know Jesus mentioned it to Peter in regard to the disciple John. And if death is the enemy of God then it is the enemy of the Body of Christ. And he is seated expecting until, his enemies become his foot stool./ we're ok.
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02-25-2011, 01:11 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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This freaks some people out.....
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Yes. I agree. lol. So many accept traditional thoughts and all the hymns' emphasis of flying away, and never stop to think the Bible did not put that kind of emphasis on it all.
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02-25-2011, 01:12 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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Originally Posted by Austin
Ok. I understand what you are saying.I agree the time has not come. But I believe in an appointed time when it will. Not as though I have attained unto it, nor have I known any other that has. But I know Jesus mentioned it to Peter in regard to the disciple John. And if death is the enemy of God then it is the enemy of the Body of Christ. And he is seated expecting until, his enemies become his foot stool./ we're ok.
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AMEN AND AMEN! 
Those enemies were dealt with by the power of he cross, but we remain seated with Christ until they are all put down. Thinking they must be dealt with by further work is not remaining seated til they come down. Remaining seated means the work was done and we know it!
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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02-25-2011, 01:15 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
SOMEONE needs to disagree, or this is no longer AFF!!
Come on... someone talk about being seated in heavenly places... talk about how the new heaven & earth are one in the same in quality, talk about how he went and prepared dwelling places for us (Father's house)... something!!! Too much agreement on this thread! 
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02-25-2011, 01:16 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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SOMEONE needs to disagree, or this is no longer AFF!!
Come on... someone talk about being seated in heavenly places... talk about how the new heaven & earth are one in the same in quality, talk about how he went and prepared dwelling places for us (Father's house)... something!!! Too much agreement on this thread! |
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...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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02-25-2011, 01:16 PM
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My Family!
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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Originally Posted by Socialite
SOMEONE needs to disagree, or this is no longer AFF!!
Come on... someone talk about being seated in heavenly places... talk about how the new heaven & earth are one in the same in quality, talk about how he went and prepared dwelling places for us (Father's house)... something!!! Too much agreement on this thread! |
Oh, they are here, I assure you.
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02-25-2011, 01:19 PM
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Austin
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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Originally Posted by Socialite
SOMEONE needs to disagree, or this is no longer AFF!!
Come on... someone talk about being seated in heavenly places... talk about how the new heaven & earth are one in the same in quality, talk about how he went and prepared dwelling places for us (Father's house)... something!!! Too much agreement on this thread! |
Well you can review my tread on wearing neckties to church. I think we finally arrived now on that post were we should be riding horses and buggies to church instead of driving worldly cars, ha ha..
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02-25-2011, 01:21 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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Well you can review my tread on wearing neckties to church. I think we finally arrived now on that post were we should be riding horses and buggies to church instead of driving worldly cars, ha ha..
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I seldom wear a necktie and white shirt any more. Looks too Mormon. lol
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...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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02-25-2011, 01:21 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
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Originally Posted by Socialite
SOMEONE needs to disagree, or this is no longer AFF!!
Come on... someone talk about being seated in heavenly places... talk about how the new heaven & earth are one in the same in quality, talk about how he went and prepared dwelling places for us (Father's house)... something!!! Too much agreement on this thread! |
Relax Socialite.
We're just dwelling together in heavenly places. 
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02-25-2011, 02:55 PM
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Re: Not Meant to Die and go to Heaven
Mike,
I thought you did not believe in the 1000 year reign of Christ?
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