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Old 05-23-2011, 08:09 AM
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Re: Imperialism is the Cause of Terrorism!

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I have typed to replies but when I send them it says that I am no longer logged in and I lose everything. so hear goes again

My point is if Christians are carrying the flag or the sword for the countries of this world how can we carry the Gospel?

My second point is more of a question. Should Christians buy products from companies or invest in companies that are doing business unethically and hurting people (many of them Christians) around the world?

As for the military bases on foreign soil; Would Americans allow another country to Build a base in our country? If it were to happen would we resent it? I think we know the answers.

Here is a website the has timelines of US interventions in the affairs of other countries. This is important because 85% percent of Americans claim to be Christian so our actions abroad influence peoples idea of Christianity.

http://www.historycommons.org/topic.jsp?topic=regions

The time lines that deal with Iraq and Iran and central America are particularly revealing.
MrJob62, the YouTube clip is very interesting and makes a lot of sense to me, and I have to admit you are right about the way Christians are in America. I watched Joyce Meyers yesterday, and it was an abomination to me and made me sick, what is it doing to Jesus Christ. She looked like a man, and even spoke like a man. If I was a woman, I might have been attracted to her. I am checking out the website that you posted.
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Old 05-23-2011, 09:02 AM
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MrJob62, the YouTube clip is very interesting and makes a lot of sense to me, and I have to admit you are right about the way Christians are in America. I watched Joyce Meyers yesterday, and it was an abomination to me and made me sick, what is it doing to Jesus Christ. She looked like a man, and even spoke like a man. If I was a woman, I might have been attracted to her. I am checking out the website that you posted.
If you can even think if you were a woman you might have been attracted to her, then you've got bigger problems then Joyce Meyer ever dreamt. If she's such an abomination then what were you doing watching her in the first place?

What about where Jesus says those who are for us are not against us?

Have you and MrJob no goodness in your thoughts or hearts? You must know the most wretched of people who claim to be Christians. I can name so many fine men and women who serve the Lord. You and MrJob need to get out more, pray more or just stop looking in the mirror so much and then projecting your own faults onto others.
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Old 05-23-2011, 11:47 AM
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Re: Imperialism is the Cause of Terrorism!

My solution to terrorism is simple.

I call it Parking Lot Deplomacy.

You identify some nation that supports terror... I suggest we start with Syria or Iran or Somalia or even Yemen.

you tell them they cannot do it any more.

you wait until they do it.

Then you invade. You distroy everything. you then go in with bull dozers and level the entire contry.

Then your pour cement over the whole landmass.

then you stripe it off like a giant parking lot.

then you go on TV and ask the following question:

Who is next.



oh, and the notion that the current terrorism being done in the war is a result of imperialism is just blather. very stupid blather by the "blame America for everything, first, middle and last" crowd.

they need to be kicked in the pants.
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Old 05-23-2011, 12:22 PM
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My solution to terrorism is simple.

I call it Parking Lot Deplomacy.

You identify some nation that supports terror... I suggest we start with Syria or Iran or Somalia or even Yemen.

you tell them they cannot do it any more.

you wait until they do it.

Then you invade. You distroy everything. you then go in with bull dozers and level the entire contry.

Then your pour cement over the whole landmass.

then you stripe it off like a giant parking lot.

then you go on TV and ask the following question:

Who is next.



oh, and the notion that the current terrorism being done in the war is a result of imperialism is just blather. very stupid blather by the "blame America for everything, first, middle and last" crowd.

they need to be kicked in the pants.
FERD FOR PRESIDENT!

Or as someone I know said: if they want Israel's borders, let them come get them! Same kind of smart thinking.

mrjob is cute, don't ya think?
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FERD FOR PRESIDENT!

Or as someone I know said: if they want Israel's borders, let them come get them! Same kind of smart thinking.

mrjob is cute, don't ya think?

LOL. I suppose I should have a since of humor.... however when you are talking about subjects where innocent people die... like AMERICANS at the hands of TERRORISTS... I dont suffer foolish comments well...


I dont know Mrjob and we are dealing with comments not personalities so... we will focus on the lunacy stated not weither or not the stater is themself a loon... which we do not know, nor have any way of knowing....

hey, "some of my best friends are democrats!" LOL! No, really!
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LOL. I suppose I should have a since of humor.... however when you are talking about subjects where innocent people die... like AMERICANS at the hands of TERRORISTS... I dont suffer foolish comments well...


I dont know Mrjob and we are dealing with comments not personalities so... we will focus on the lunacy stated not weither or not the stater is themself a loon... which we do not know, nor have any way of knowing....

hey, "some of my best friends are democrats!" LOL! No, really!
I never said mrjob was a loon. And the reference to cute didn't seem to be as rude as the disparaging comments he makes towards Christians, America and it's policies.

Is mrjob a democrat? I don't think he has stated one way or the other.
But, I could be wrong, maybe he is.
I live in a family full of democrats and even they don't slam this country, just republicans...LOL!
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Re: Imperialism is the Cause of Terrorism!

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The real cause of terrorism is not extremism. It is Imperialism. Please watch the short video and post your comments and solutions if you have any.
What you call "Imperialism" (which is perhaps the most often redefined word in the english language since the word "Christian") may be the reason terrorism happens to the west, but saying it is the cause of terrorism et al is like saying promiscuity is the reason STD bacteria exist. Those bacteria would still be around without promiscuity, they'd just be infecting someone/thing esle. And if there were no oil in the middle east, the inhabitants of that part of the world would still be killing each other like they have done for centuries.


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This country that we call the U.S.A. is based on genocide and ethnic cleansing. White Anglo Saxon Protestants believing in Manifest Destiny believed that God gave us this land and we had to kill off the heathen savages and send them to hell so we could take it over. Our history is filled with slaughter, deceit, broken treaties, genocide, treachery, shame.
I will not deny that the USA has done some things that we today (and would even then in many cases) consider unspeakably awful. However, I would respectfully ask 2 questions of you:

1. Can you name a modern country extant today that was not formed at least in part by some form of genocide, ethnic cleansing, or other like evils?

2. Do you think that the native American tribes that this country mistreated got where we found them without either displacing/anihilating another tribe or having themselves been displaced?
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