The Real Delegate Count - it's not over - Page 3

Pressing-On · #21 05-31-2012, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Esther

Ditto.

I am so tired of having the decision made by other states before we get a chance to vote.

Although I will vote against Obama, I also was voting against Rommey. The GOP needs to wake up to what the majority wants.

BTW...I wish the primaries was the same day for all states so all the states could be counted without seeing the candidates dropping out after a couple of states votes as though they speak for the rest of the nation.

That (in bold) and the GOP along with the media driving the narrative. Santorum was exactly right on that issue saying that we don't realize how much they do drive the narrative.

My husband didn't even vote in the primary and we won't be voting for Romney come November. I'd rather have a Constitutional fight on our hands with Obama than a possible 8 years with a Rhino. They are more of a danger to Conservatism than Obama is. It's a slow death that allows the Liberals to win on policy.

And, really, this interview with Newt on Joe Scarborough really speaks to the issue - One of the commentators said, "Romney would be doing better if he could articulate on this as well as Newt." Very true!

In the interview Newt talks about "Rubio" putting forth a good immigration solution that Romney will support. It wasn't "Romney's" plan, of course.

I wanted to vote for a leader and not a puppet, but that is what we will be getting again. In another interview Newt does say that Romney may turn out to be a good president. I would have wanted to know that he would be BEFORE I voted.

A couple of points Newt made in the interview - Party Loyalist - I was glad he clarified that he is a "party loyalist", which wouldn't have anything to do with the dishonesty of Mitt's character assassination against him. I would still want an apology from Romney for the distortion. Newt is brilliant and a true patriot. Too bad the GOP worked to force him out.

Second - Newt brought up, in a joking manner, the $10,000 bet (referring back to the debate exchange between Romney and Gov. Perry), underlying the fact that Romney is ONLY the frontrunner because of his money.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/..._joe/#47627603

I also read an article at Human Events where the writer is talking about on-line support via FB and Twitter where Romney's rivals are not speaking about him or supporting him - Newt, Palin, Santorum, Bachmann, Huntsman, Paul, Rubio. "Time to get truly get behind the nominee." LOL! Not happening here. And he has to put his wife out there to make himself not look so plastic.

CC1 · #22 05-31-2012, 05:14 PM

PO,

Really sad and disappointed to hear you guys think four more years of Obama is better than Romney. Personally I think that is crazy and a bad case of sour grapes.

I adhere to Ronald Reagan's philosophy that you support the most conservative candidate THAT CAN WIN. Romney may be a RINO but he certainly is much more conservative AND much more captialist than Obama.

It will be a pity if people who just can't get over their guy not getting the nomination stay home and insure Obama is elected again.

Pressing-On · #23 05-31-2012, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

PO,

Really sad and disappointed to hear you guys think four more years of Obama is better than Romney. Personally I think that is crazy and a bad case of sour grapes.

I adhere to Ronald Reagan's philosophy that you support the most conservative candidate THAT CAN WIN. Romney may be a RINO but he certainly is much more conservative AND much more captialist than Obama.

It will be a pity if people who just can't get over their guy not getting the nomination stay home and insure Obama is elected again.

You aren't understanding the fight, CC1.

It is this - His general election campaign will be a disaster for conservatives as he takes the GOP down with him and burns up what it means to be a conservative in the process. He is only a conservative because the grand pooh-bahs tell us that he is. He has never been able to sell himself to 25% of the voters, but if he loses, the other 75% will blame us for it. I will fault the 75% for believing his lying rhetoric. Just sayin'....

CC1 · #24 05-31-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

You aren't understanding the fight, CC1.

It is this - His general election campaign will be a disaster for conservatives as he takes the GOP down with him and burns up what it means to be a conservative in the process. He is only a conservative because the grand pooh-bahs tell us that he is. He has never been able to sell himself to 25% of the voters, but if he loses, the other 75% will blame us for it. I will fault the 75% for believing his lying rhetoric. Just sayin'....

Your premise is wrong when you say you will fault the 75% "for believing his lying rhetoric". I am sure most are like me who are under no illusion that Romney is a conservative. He is in fact a moderate. However he is a moderate who has been a very successful Governor and Businessman. A moderate is not a conservative but is certainly much better than a liberal. Yes we will blame you guys who are hell bent that if you can't nominate a conservative then you just aren't going to vote. That is not rational thinking. The primaries are over and now you vote for the most conservative guy in the running who can win. In this case that is Romney whether you like it or not.

Hoovie · #25 05-31-2012, 07:57 PM

I think Romney is a moderate Republican... but very close to the positions of Bush41 and 43.

Pressing-On · #26 05-31-2012, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

Your premise is wrong when you say you will fault the 75% "for believing his lying rhetoric". I am sure most are like me who are under no illusion that Romney is a conservative. He is in fact a moderate. However he is a moderate who has been a very successful Governor and Businessman. A moderate is not a conservative but is certainly much better than a liberal. Yes we will blame you guys who are hell bent that if you can't nominate a conservative then you just aren't going to vote. That is not rational thinking. The primaries are over and now you vote for the most conservative guy in the running who can win. In this case that is Romney whether you like it or not.

The Republican Party, IMO, wouldn't be in the shape it is in if the thinking wasn't, "A moderate is not a conservative, but is certainly much better than a liberal."

I agree with a comment from the WSJ about Romney back in 2008 when he ran against McCain - "The problem is not that Mr. Romney is willing to reconsider his former thinking. Nor is it so much that his apparent convictions always seem in sync with the audience to which he is speaking at the moment. … Plenty of politicians attune their positions to new constituencies. The larger danger is that Mr. Romney’s conversions are not motivated by expediency or mere pandering but may represent his real governing philosophy."

And was he a successful Governor? I doubt that he was. Even in a Democratic state, if he was that great, he would have been re-elected.

Quoting, State of Massachusetts Treasurer, Timothy P. Cahill - "As state treasurer, I can speak with authority about the Massachusetts pilot program. It has been a fiscal train wreck.

The universal insurance coverage we adopted in 2006 was projected to cost taxpayers $88 million a year. However, since this program was adopted in 2006, our health-care costs have in total exceeded $4 billion. The cost of Massachusetts’ plan has blown a hole in the Commonwealth’s budget. Just last Thursday, Gov. Deval Patrick’s office announced a $294 million shortfall related to health-care costs.

If not for federal Medicaid reimbursements and commitments from Washington to prop up this plan, Massachusetts would be broke. The only reason MassCare has survived is that we have been repeatedly bailed out by the federal government."

Anywayssss, I'm going to hang around with my rebel buddies now. I guess I'll take a time out from AFF. Don't want to keep you guys riled up.

After all, tomorrow is another day...

Sam · #27 05-31-2012, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CC1

...The primaries are over and now you vote for the most conservative guy in the running who can win. In this case that is Romney whether you like it or not.

AMEN!

Dedicated Mind · #28 05-31-2012, 10:42 PM

don't leave po, i admire the stand you are making. voting for integrity sends a message to the powers that be.

deacon blues · #29 06-01-2012, 05:58 AM

Its Ooooooover....

Pressing-On · #30 06-01-2012, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by deacon blues

Its Ooooooover....

Sorry, Buddy. Gotta aggravate you one more time. Just got home and had this waiting for me.

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Breaking: Romney did not win nomination

Even with news circulating like wildfire that Romney secured the Republican nomination with an alleged win in Tuesday's Texas Primary, it seems as though this may not actually be the case. Ironically enough, Romney still may not have even taken Texas, yet.

So far, Paul seems to have taken the majority of delegates in, at least, 11 or more states, Romney in only 19.

Especially considering there is no such thing as a “bound” delegate at the national level, despite what some are trying to claim, Romney is not only nowhere near locking up the nomination, a brokered convention is now almost a guarantee, leaving the Ron Paul Revolution squarely in the driver's seat.

http://www.examiner.com/article/romn...win-nomination

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