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Old 06-04-2012, 10:57 AM
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Re: 10 Reasons Against Gay Marriage

We are content right where we are.

You know how when you first walk into a dark room, you can't see or make your way around and it scares you move around the room, it takes a little while for your eyes to adjust. But after a little time, your eyes adjust and you can see better. Then things are ok, you can move around the room safely, see things a little better, your more comfortable.

This is how we have become, we have adjusted to the dark.

I remember when I was a kid and the pastor would preach about 666 and the end times and how time was running out. It used to send chills down my spine, people who had been walking the fence would be at the alters.

Today? Don't even phase us. All the changes in the world don't matter anymore. We just tell our pastor "Hey, thats just the way things are in todays world". Instead of attempting to turn the light on or leave the room, we have chosen to become adjusted to the dark. We are comfortable here.
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Old 06-04-2012, 10:59 AM
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Frankly, this entire debate could be resolved if the GOVERNMENT got OUT of the marriage business. The GOVERNEMNT doesn't define marriage. Frankly, the fact that I have to go to the GOVERNMENT and receive a LICENSE (which I pay the government for) to get married is sickening to me. It's NONE of the GOVERNMENT'S business who I wish to marry, why I wish to marry, or that I have even married. Marriage is a PRIVATE agreement between individuals to cohabitate and share physical intimacy. For nearly 1,500 years the church recognized, and blessed, a marriage even if the two people only agreed to be husband and wife out behind a haystack and told two witnesses that they were married. GOVERNMENT began to set it's sights on marriage through royal decrees when royalty began having illegitimate children in order to secure inheritance. Next we see the marriage license being instituted in the United States to prevent blacks and whites from marrying. And now today every couple that wants to be married has to grovel at the feet of the GOVERNMENT and pay for a license as though the GOVERNMENT is the arbitrator all that is holy. And since our tax dollars fund the government groups have the power to SWAY the GOVERNMENT to redefine marriage and divorce. Marriage has been redefined already by the constant revision of divorce law. The stipulations of marriage that existed 20 years ago don't exist today because of divorce law. For example, today we have "no fault divorce". That cheapened marriage more than gays wanting to live together and call it a "marriage". Then we have issues of RELIGIOUS LIBERTIES. Not all religions or churches denounce gay marriages. I know an Episcopal priest who travels outside of the country to unite gay couples because the GOVERNMENT will not allow him to practice his religion (which is far too liberal for my tastes) here in the "land of the free". My vote is that we PRIVATIZE MARRIAGE. Get GOVERNMENT out of it and allow individuals to establish a private contract that establishes a civil union between adults. As far as I'm your tennic coach should be able to marry you if you want them to. Then it's a PRIVATE issue and if we don't like it as churches, we don't have to acknowledge it as ligit... just like those churches that don't recognize second marriages. What really gets to me is how liberals want to expand the GOVERNMENT'S power to redefine marriage and conservatives want to use the police force of GOVERNMENT to maintain their definition of marriage. Common theme here... both are worshiping at the altar of GOVERNMENT, groveling for the GOVERNMENT to either protect the current definition of marriage or expand the current definition of marriage. Frankly, it's none of the GOVERNMENT'S business.

Let's get the GOVERNENT'S grimey paws off of this because it's only dividing the nation and increasing the GOVERNMENT'S power over perhaps the most sacred private instititution on earth... marriage.

Give us liberty!
Would you change the tax laws so that everyone is taxed at the same rate regardless of marital status?

What would you do about inheritance laws?
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:04 AM
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Would you change the tax laws so that everyone is taxed at the same rate regardless of marital status?
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That should be stipulated in the marriage contract and upheld as any other private contract.
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Would you change the tax laws so that everyone is taxed at the same rate regardless of marital status?

Ha !! I wish !

What would you do about inheritance laws?
There should be only one inheritance law. You have to have a will. Period. Can you imagine the tax dollars that would save?
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:19 AM
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We are content right where we are.

You know how when you first walk into a dark room, you can't see or make your way around and it scares you move around the room, it takes a little while for your eyes to adjust. But after a little time, your eyes adjust and you can see better. Then things are ok, you can move around the room safely, see things a little better, your more comfortable.

This is how we have become, we have adjusted to the dark.

I remember when I was a kid and the pastor would preach about 666 and the end times and how time was running out. It used to send chills down my spine, people who had been walking the fence would be at the alters.

Today? Don't even phase us. All the changes in the world don't matter anymore. We just tell our pastor "Hey, thats just the way things are in todays world". Instead of attempting to turn the light on or leave the room, we have chosen to become adjusted to the dark. We are comfortable here.
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That should be stipulated in the marriage contract and upheld as any other private contract.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:28 AM
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Man+Woman=Children; Marriage belongs right here, period.
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Old 06-04-2012, 11:41 AM
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Man+Woman=Children; Marriage belongs right here, period.
Are voluntarily childless married couples as sinful as gays?

Should infertile couples be prohibited from marrying?
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Would you change the tax laws so that everyone is taxed at the same rate regardless of marital status?

What would you do about inheritance laws?
Yes

No marriage credit (or penalty). NO child earned income tax credits either or deductions in general. Flat tax all the way.
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Are voluntarily childless married couples as sinful as gays?

Should infertile couples be prohibited from marrying?
Most married couples want children.

Infertile couples can adopt. My parents were infertile, so they adopted me and my adopted sister.

Neither of your examples justify gay marriage. Man+Woman=Children; let nature teach the student.
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