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Old 10-21-2012, 10:01 AM
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Re: Nepotism: An Apostolic Paradigm?

Hmm; I'm going with "follow the $."
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Old 10-21-2012, 02:08 PM
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Re: Nepotism: An Apostolic Paradigm?

Anoher example of how far we are from biblical eldership
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Old 10-21-2012, 03:06 PM
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Anoher example of how far we are from biblical eldership
Hmm, how far they are, maybe; but this needn't apply to anyone who doesn't wish to be applied to it. There are several pastors who accept NO MONEY for their work, from big televangels to little home church guys. When one has realized that they will never find a pastor who believes exactly like they do, one becomes free to follow Christ.
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Maybe it's just been my personal observation, but why does there seem to be an epidemic of churches that have been "kept in the family" for so many generations, and pastored by a succeeding line of male heirs?

I'm not saying this trend doesn't happen among other denominations, but it seems to be more prevalent among Apostolic fellowships.
I see it a lot in both the UPC and exUPC churches. At Christ Church Nashville at least neither son was in ministry so that church was spared that eventuality. Of course they are experiencing it now to a degree with the current Sr. pastor as his SIL is the Asst. Pastor and is one of the most boring preachers I have ever heard. CC went from an abundance of great pulpiteers a few years ago with Dan Scott, Phil Goldsberry, and Paul Russell to this sad situation. Nepotism. Hate it.

Bottom line is that God's work is NOT a family business. I find it amusing when preachers try to justify that path by comparing it to the Old Testament tribe of Levites. Good Grief (as Cindy would say).

UPDATE: After typing this post I went to the CC website and don't see the SIL listed on staff. Hmmmm......will have to check this out. Maybe he left.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:34 AM
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All three UPC churches that I have attended have been handed down to the son. One resulted in a church split when the father (as senior pastor) and son couldn't agree.
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I would have a hard time attending a family runned church business.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:48 AM
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Re: Nepotism: An Apostolic Paradigm?

So, is it always wrong to pass the church on to a family member?
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Re: Nepotism: An Apostolic Paradigm?

Who's to say that God's choice doesn't just happen to be the previous pastor's son? And if it happens about a zillion times more often than random chance -- God's ways are not man's ways!
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Re: Nepotism: An Apostolic Paradigm?

Maybe they just run their church like a business.
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