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01-13-2013, 09:30 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
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Straight people don't even get delivered from their perversion. They get married.
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Being attracted to the opposite sex isn't perversion; it's normal.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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01-13-2013, 09:30 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
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Steve,
Straight people don't even get delivered from their perversion. They get married.
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That is your problem 'straight people' are not perverted. Homos are perverts.
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01-13-2013, 09:36 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Being attracted to the opposite sex isn't perversion; it's normal.
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How do you tell someone that has SSA that he is a pervert over something that he didn't choose?
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01-13-2013, 09:38 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
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How do you tell someone that has SSA that he is a pervert over something that he didn't choose?
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I wouldn't use that word; however, I would use the word abnormal. If that's offensive, I'm sorry. It's still true. God created men and women to be attracted to the opposite sex; not the same sex.
People are born with the inclination to commit all kinds of sins; that doesn't validate the sin OR the inclination. I didn't choose to be born a sinner; does that make sin okay?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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01-13-2013, 09:45 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
I wouldn't use that word; however, I would use the word abnormal. If that's offensive, I'm sorry. It's still true. God created men and women to be attracted to the opposite sex; not the same sex.
People are born with the inclination to commit all kinds of sins; that doesn't validate the sin OR the inclination. I didn't choose to be born a sinner; does that make sin okay?
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Are they supposed to remain celibate? They didn't wake up one morning and say, think I'll be gay today.
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01-13-2013, 09:47 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
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Being attracted to the opposite sex isn't perversion; it's normal.
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I'll rephrase. They don't get delivered from their lust. They get married.
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01-13-2013, 09:48 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
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Are they supposed to remain celibate? They didn't wake up one morning and say, think I'll be gay today.
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NOPE they need to be delivered. A homo in the closet is just that a homo in the closet. They need to acknowledge the sinfulness of their perversion and allow God to deliever them.
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01-13-2013, 10:04 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
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And glad about it. ONLY place for a homosexual in an Apostolic Church is in the altar getting delivered from his perversion.
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I agree 
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01-13-2013, 10:07 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
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Are they supposed to remain celibate? They didn't wake up one morning and say, think I'll be gay today.
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houston, we can go around this all day. Are people who enjoy stealing supposed to simply pay for their candy? They didn't wake up one morning and say, think I'll enjoy being a thief today.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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01-13-2013, 10:12 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?
What do you do with I Corinthians 10:13? Throw it out? Scripture says that with temptation God makes a way of escape. That means there's a way out of homosexual temptation, too.
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"There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it."
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It also says that God is faithful, and that he won't suffer you to be tempted above that "ye are able"...and provides the way of escape "that ye may be able to bear it."
Doesn't that remove excuses?
I guess one answer for someone struggling with homosexual temptation would be: look around for the escape that God has provided instead of allowing temptation to define who you are. I find it interesting that homosexuals define themselves as such because of what tempts them. Is a man an adulterer simply because he is tempted to commit adultery? No--he is only an adulterer if he gives IN to the temptation. If he resists, he is still counted as faithful to his wife.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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