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Old 01-13-2013, 05:04 PM
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Apostle Paul... a gay?

Was Paul a homosexual?

http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Chri...-Paul-Gay.aspx
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Old 01-13-2013, 05:48 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?

I could not read it all...
It is stupid.
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:00 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?

Spong does not present a single shred of evidence for his twisted idea....

All he does is wrest the scripture to show his personal feelings..

There is an especially hot place in Hell for folks who pervert the Word like this.
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Old 01-13-2013, 06:05 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?

This guy uses circular reasoning. He assumes certain things as if the are already fact without proving them to be true then uses that fallacy as a springboard for his argument

Example

"Why, when Paul seemed to be so consumed with a passion he could not control, would he not take his own advice and alleviate that passion in marriage?"

He never verifies Paul "seemed to be so consumed with a passion he could not control". He assumes it. The word "seemed" too is highly subjective
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?

That article is one of the lamest things I've ever read. He didn't provide a shred of actual evidence from scripture or history; only the idea that one should read Paul's writings with that possibility in mind. Huh? One could read David's writings with the same possibility in mind and probably come up with all kinds of verses that could be skewed around the presupposition.

Newsflash: His approach is called proof texting [eisegesis]. The lack of dependence on scriptural evidence in that article makes it a waste of time for me. I'd rather expend brain energy on worthwhile ideas. Teachers, preachers and writers who employ these tactics lose credibility trying to impose their own ideas and pet agendas onto the text.

This article reminds me of two things:

1. People who can make a dirty joke out of ANYTHING.
2. Avoid foolish and unlearned questions.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:05 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?

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Was Paul a homosexual?
Nope.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:23 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?

In his defense, he doesn't believe that Paul was a practicing homosexual.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:24 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?

Avoid foolish and unlearned questions... so you want AFF shut down???
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:25 PM
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Spong does not present a single shred of evidence for his twisted idea....

All he does is wrest the scripture to show his personal feelings..

There is an especially hot place in Hell for folks who pervert the Word like this.
I somewhat agree. He interprets like most legalists.
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Old 01-13-2013, 08:28 PM
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Re: Apostle Paul... a gay?

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In his defense, he doesn't believe that Paul was a practicing homosexual.
Blech. It's a sorry piece of writing. I don't care what he thinks about Paul...

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Avoid foolish and unlearned questions... so you want AFF shut down???
LOL!!!! Nope! I'm all for exploring new ideas, but at least PRETEND that you're trying to dig up scriptural evidence.


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I somewhat agree. He interprets like most legalists.
This is what got on my nerves--proof-texting drives me batty!
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