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Originally Posted by Aquila
So... you don't believe that one must be JUSTIFIED through faith prior to receiving the baptism of the Holy Ghost?
If one isn't "JUSTIFIED" (declared sinless before a HOLY God on account of Christ's imputed righteousness)... HOW CAN THEY RECEIVE THE HOLY GHOST???
He cleanses the temple through His blood drenched grace... and then comes to reside in it.
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your dilemma is the basis of your own system which is flawed and improperly attributing certain aspects to words as "justification" "faith" "imputed righteousness." It is not my fault your construct cannot relate properly to relative happenings in which scripture relates to us.
What does "justify" mean? Not just a REFORMED lensed view which is a certain structure or paradigm which they only see things. Because your SYSTEM has a failure to understand something doesn't mean it is wrong.
1) Justification has a broad application of context and many levels of relationship to a person to Gods Word. It is simply God doing justice toward someones actions withing the proper context of what is going on or toward a related event. In general scripture mainly talks about right standing per whatever the issue. It can of course have deliverance/salvation aspects. It also can have covenantal aspects as well. It is mainly a view of God's judgment or consideration of a matter.
2) because a person is considered "just" toward God in one thing does not mean they are justified in all things according to God's consideration.
3) having faith toward something a person hears from a speaking is a "right, just" thing to the author of what is said. It however does not mean a transaction has taken place or status overall has changed.
4) a persons heart is not a enmity with God if they are " believing on" in a continous sense. Thus God can use them. That does not mean they are cleansed by the blood of Christ. It simply means their heart has had a change. God does not need to "cleanse" a house as you put it to move upon someone due to "past enmity or sins." A unwilling vessel is what God cannot move or use. Past sins have no bearing on the moving of the Spirit of God it is the present faith of the heart that God considers a "righteous" thing. Are they "just" or having done "right" by believing? Yes! It however does not mean they are in covenant or past sins washed away. To turn to God is to complete the CONTEXT of the whole message. "Repent(turn because of choice to follow) and be baptized (united with Christ) everyone of you...."
They do not have a "imputed" righteousness by simply believing the news. They have a "consideration from God of having responded rightly" to come into covenant. God simply considers their current response right or just TO THEN come into covenant. It is the faith in the working of GOD IN baptism that we are "clothed" with Christ and we are united with his blood/death.
God considered Abraham's response of "faith" or "trust" to be a righteous thing or deed to his Word. Scripture is VERY clear.
Gen 15:6 has nothing to do with salvation toward Abraham or a single moment life justifying event. It is God considering his response a "right" response according to the narrator of Genesis which is within view of his life not a single moment in time. Abraham had already been "just" toward God in his actions.
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