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11-11-2014, 06:03 AM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
The video in itself does not prove this is the end time. It is a warning sign.
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11-11-2014, 06:23 AM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
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The video in itself does not prove this is the end time. It is a warning sign.
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Jesus gave explicit notice of what THE SIGN, not signs (as in many), which would be indicative of the nearness of His 2nd coming, when He responded to the apostles inquiry, saying, "Take heed that no man deceive you" ( Matthew 24:4). In other words, worldwide spiritual deception wrought by a multitude of false prophets.
I believe that He was saying, in rather veiled language, that the abundance of false prophets which would arise in the latter days (such as we are presently witnessing), who would be proclaiming a variety of speculative scenarios about His coming (i.e., the rapture of the church, preterism, etc) would be THE SIGN that we should look for.
This belief is based upon His statements which immediately followed, wherein He described in greater detail about such false prophets and the havoc which their erroneous teachings would inflict upon unsuspecting mankind.
Just my thoughts about the matter. I'm confident there are those who would be quick to disagree.
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11-11-2014, 04:43 PM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
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The video in itself does not prove this is the end time. It is a warning sign.
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I didn't even watch it. I saw the first few seconds and realized it was some amateurish internet hack
I don't understand why everyone watches these youtube videos and believe it's true or believe something is true because they saw it on facebook
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11-11-2014, 05:25 PM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
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I didn't even watch it. I saw the first few seconds and realized it was some amateurish internet hack
I don't understand why everyone watches these youtube videos and believe it's true or believe something is true because they saw it on facebook
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I hardly ever agree fully with what one teaches in a video. But if there is some powerful truth in it I accept it. My experience is many Youtube teachers have more truths than Church Pastors.
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11-11-2014, 05:44 PM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
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I hardly ever agree fully with what one teaches in a video. But if there is some powerful truth in it I accept it. My experience is many Youtube teachers have more truths than Church Pastors.
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They are all polemic. Anyone can say anything. My question is, aside from the bible, where do we see guillotines being used? Is there an official report or is it just another conspiracy talk going around that people believe for no other reason than they saw it on Facebook or Youtube?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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11-11-2014, 06:24 AM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
Hi my preterist friends. Do you recognize these scriptures? Take careful notice that they are addressed to specific people. Not one of them has YOUR NAME on them! Will you now be consistent?
2To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead  2And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
1Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
1James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
1The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.
Dont leave you much to stand on when you also take out the gospels which were of course written for the people BACK THEN!
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11-11-2014, 09:15 AM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Hi my preterist friends. Do you recognize these scriptures? Take careful notice that they are addressed to specific people. Not one of them has YOUR NAME on them! Will you now be consistent?
2To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.u
1Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead  2And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
1Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
1James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
1The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.
Dont leave you much to stand on when you also take out the gospels which were of course written for the people BACK THEN!
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Strawman argument.
I already said general truths and statements and doctrines are for every generation of the church. But time sensitive events are not.
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11-11-2014, 10:00 AM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
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Strawman argument.
I already said general truths and statements and doctrines are for every generation of the church. But time sensitive events are not.
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Right, the bible was not written to us. Not everything written pertains to us such as Matt 24. Things concerning Christ and salvation.
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Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
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11-11-2014, 10:03 AM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Hi my preterist friends. Do you recognize these scriptures? Take careful notice that they are addressed to specific people. Not one of them has YOUR NAME on them! Will you now be consistent?
2To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
1Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ, to all the saints in Christ Jesus which are at Philippi, with the bishops and deacons:
1Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead  2And all the brethren which are with me, unto the churches of Galatia:
1Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father and Jesus Christ our Lord.
4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour.
1James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
1The elder unto the wellbeloved Gaius, whom I love in the truth.
Dont leave you much to stand on when you also take out the gospels which were of course written for the people BACK THEN!
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Weak response. We didn't say bible is not edifying for us today but that not everything written pertains to us.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
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11-11-2014, 06:47 AM
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Re: Guillatines to be used for future executions
I know of only 2 groups of people that declare that Jesus returned already.
The Jehovahs Witnesses and Preterists.(there may be more) Even though there is no physical record of the Lords' return at all.
The 2nd coming will be the Greatest event to be witnessed by all of mankind since the beginning of the world.
The rapture believers are only awaiting a "catching away of the bride", prior to the end of the Church Age.
Then the center of attention will be put back on the Millennial Reign of Christ and the Lord will Reign from Jerusalem, with a restored Israel, having a NEW covenant and everyone in Israel from the LEAST to the GREATEST will know the Lord.
This has never happened, but it most certainly will when Jesus returns to Reign on earth....
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Israel will not be subjected to the Law of Moses on parchment, as in the former covenant, but the NEW Israel will have the Law written in their hearts. All of them in Israel will have their sins forgiven as a result of this NEW covenant. Every single one of them in Israel will know the Lord, and they will NOT have any more need to teach one another about Jesus.(Because He is PHYSICALLY reigning in their own front yard)
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