Books Explaining Oneness Pentecostalism

[Praxeas]

Oneness of God - David Bernard
Onenesspentecostal.com - Jason Dulle, William Arnold
I Am - David Norris

For an overall view of Our doctrines

https://pentecostalpublishing.com/p-...gy-series.aspx

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

Sigh. The name of the Lord, Jesus, Lord Jesus, Christ and others are used. Can you explain what does your post have to do with resources someone could study apart from Scripture to better grasp the Oneness model, particularly as my opening post said someone without prior knowledge of Oneness Pentecostalism rather than making logical fallacies?

Sure I can explain what my post has to do with resources.

You made a statement that:

I read the entire book yesterday with all of Romans. I'm asking for extra-scriptural content. Oneness Pentecostalism is useless if it cannot be explained reasonably. Would anyone suggest The Oneness of God?

You must realize that this is why you and I are on different playing fields when it comes to Christianity. You need extra-Biblical resources because you cant accept what is written in the BOOK, and I accept the Word of God, the Bible, as standing alone.

Obviously you are here to stir up some controversy, so we give it to you. You are here to gain some material to write about, so we feed you some material. This is a forum, as well you know. This is not our first rodeo either.

Now, the first thing we must discuss when we study the Book and doctrines is the ground rules. We must make sure that we are all playing on the same field.

You want extra resources, we say we will use the Book. Can we play ball together on this? Or are you going to insist on your own rules for the ball game?

You asked for extra material, we laugh. When we teach a Bible study then we study the Bible.

There are too many other resources, is Joe Smith, etc and etc to go down that road.

Here is a Scripture we lean on heavily here.

Rom 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

God's word trumps our word every time. Let's let the Word be our resource.

God Bless

PS, The sigh at the first of your post meant you were already exasperated with me and we had just began our discussion.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

I found it full of contradictions or misrepresentations mixed in with some helpful things. EW Bullinger was a heretic who by no means represents Trinitarianism. Bullinger believed things that would make the Oneness crowd excommunicate him with cinged eyebrows.

Nothing is on part with Scripture. A writer will make a fool of himself if he simply says sans citation, "Oneness Pentecostalism generally believes X, Y, Z, and without these, all are damned." He must consequently have resources to quote explaining Oneness doctrine. Have you any suggestions apart from that treatise of yours, which is useful to a degree, but only one man's opinions?

Read the Oneness of God by David K Bernard

[rdp]

*If I may, please pardon the personal reference, only posting because I hope it helps :

https://apostolicacademics.com/

*Recently posted a meticulous (4-part series) exegesis of Acts 2.38 (replete w. sentence diagram, etc.).

*God bless.

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Strict Baptist

Let us say a man walked into a so-called Apostolic assembly without any prior knowledge of the Jesus-Only baptismal formula, modalistic view of the divinity or why some carry on in a funny ecstatic talking (a sinner's description of tongues). Were he to approach any of you, what would you recommend to him were he to ask for material to read from a Oneness perspective?

You should start with historical oneness. Unfortunately it is written by those who opposed Oneness and persecuted them and burned their writings. They were called Modalists in the early centuries. A place to start would be Against Praexas by Tertullian. It's online.

David Bernard's book has some good things to say but it ends up sounding Nestorian, imo. (Jesus speaks "blah,blah,blah" as a man and then Jesus speaks "blah, blah,blah" as God.)

[Steven Avery]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Jason Dulle has ample support with tons of footnotes
https://www.onenesspentecostal.com/textusreceptus.htm

When it comes to his basic argument that TR means the Scrivener edition, and thus the AV is not based on the TR, the footnotes do not support the argument, which is really quite dumb.

There are tons of weak points every time Jason tries to attack the AV or defend the modern corruption versions.

Two of his co-writers on that site even attack Matthew 28:19.

When it comes to pure Bible issues, the site is worse than worthless.

Steven

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by rdp

*If I may, please pardon the personal reference, only posting because I hope it helps :

https://apostolicacademics.com/

*Recently posted a meticulous (4-part series) exegesis of Acts 2.38 (replete w. sentence diagram, etc.).

*God bless.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Sure I can explain what my post has to do with resources.

You made a statement that:

I read the entire book yesterday with all of Romans. I'm asking for extra-scriptural content. Oneness Pentecostalism is useless if it cannot be explained reasonably. Would anyone suggest The Oneness of God?

You must realize that this is why you and I are on different playing fields when it comes to Christianity. You need extra-Biblical resources because you cant accept what is written in the BOOK, and I accept the Word of God, the Bible, as standing alone.

Obviously you are here to stir up some controversy, so we give it to you. You are here to gain some material to write about, so we feed you some material. This is a forum, as well you know. This is not our first rodeo either.

Now, the first thing we must discuss when we study the Book and doctrines is the ground rules. We must make sure that we are all playing on the same field.

You want extra resources, we say we will use the Book. Can we play ball together on this? Or are you going to insist on your own rules for the ball game?

You asked for extra material, we laugh. When we teach a Bible study then we study the Bible.

There are too many other resources, is Joe Smith, etc and etc to go down that road.

Here is a Scripture we lean on heavily here.

Rom 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?
Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

God's word trumps our word every time. Let's let the Word be our resource.

God Bless

PS, The sigh at the first of your post meant you were already exasperated with me and we had just began our discussion.

[1ofthechosen]

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/hiftbqp8lz...l%201.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/obtn3hrx9i...l%202.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0z53hx5j8t...l%203.pdf?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5cf5qy69ig...f-god.pdf?dl=0

If link doesn't work let me know and I'll e mail them to you. Just PM me.

[Strict Baptist]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Oneness of God - David Bernard
Onenesspentecostal.com - Jason Dulle, William Arnold
I Am - David Norris

For an overall view of Our doctrines

https://pentecostalpublishing.com/p-...gy-series.aspx

Thanks, Praxeas. I actually have an old work by WB Godbey, Keswickism, by what is now the UPCI publishing house. It is around a century old. It was telling reading, both on one of the Pentecostal predecessors, as well as the rather idolatrus emphasis on having the dual-stage consecration crisis experience so entwined with Victorious Life or Oberlin teaching. I don't think Godbey was Oneness, though.