AFF apostolic or not?

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

Who appointed you AFF spokesperson?

They need to be fired.

Why don't you actively engage in some sort of ministry, and then come back and lecture the Elder.

Until then, I'd say the best thing you could do is log off for more than two hours a day.

Or is that too much to ask?

[Nahum]

I'd dare say Elder Epley has more corn in the crib than many of his detractors on AFF.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

Hello. Well I thought I was talking to grown adults and not children. I guess I better be very very specific because the interpretation IQ's are very low around here. Somebody (i think prax.) first made the argument that a man should be able to wear short pants because a woman wears dresses or skirts that are shorter than a regular pair of mans pants. This was his argument, not mine. HE WAS REFERRING TO THE LENGTH WHEN HE MADE HIS ARGUMENT, not the fact that it had a breach like a mans garment. Are you really that naive pelathais? I was referring here to length. If a man wears short pants the length is more like a womans garment. Key word here. LENGTH. YOU NEED TO POINT YOUR CRITICISM AT PRAX BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE MAKING THE SILLY COMPARISON. I am sorry that you were confused. Not surprised, but sorry you were confused. I will try, next time to remember.

Thanks - but still you were the one who popped in with the first crabby post in our exchange and it didn't say anything about prax. You just started off by insinuating that I was "stupid" because we disagree.

You have clarified that post with another insinution that I am "stupid;" but this time you add that it was Prax who causes to behave in such an anti-social fashion.

But still - your point: Are you saying that the "hem length" is "that which pertaineth to a woman?" That men at all times must cover their ugly hairy calf while women are free to catch a breeze upon their more attractive and curvaceous limbs?

And do you assert that this idea comes from the Bible itself? God's inspired Word? Or do you just prefer to look at the attractive and curvaceous as opposed to the ugly and hairy?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

The dude takes internet addiction to a whole new level.

I think the reason he's so cranky is because he is online too much and never gets enough sleep.

Seriously.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

Because the Bible teaches that a man should not wear that which pertaineth to a woman. Bad argument my friend.

He didn't ask why can't a man wear a skirt. He asked why can't a man wear a pair of PANTS that are as long as a womans dress.

[StillStanding]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

I'd dare say Elder Epley has more corn in the crib than many of his detractors on AFF.

Yeah, but it's 50 year old corn!

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Am I being asked to leave? Is that what the adminstration desires/ If so I will honor your wishes. JY asked me to join the FCF but I understand this has deteriorated into more of an anti or ex site than an Apostolic site. But I for one has been posting with many of you for years now discussing Bible topics and have always been pointed so I have not changed but if it is time for a complete change as suggested by Rico I for one will leave.

Originally Posted by hometown guy

i was thinking the same thing elder

You guys were never asked to leave. It was asked though rhetorically that if it is so bad here and we are all heathens why come here and not rather go to GNC?

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Pianoman

Yeah, but it's 50 year old corn!

[dizzyde]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

I am referring to minor details, not major issues like television, cut hair, make-up, jewelry, painted fingernails, died hair, etc.

I have many friends that know that I believe they are going to hell. Do you believe that everybody that calls themselves apostolic is going to heaven? Are there no lines anymore?

Yes we do fellowship with those that we might have minor differences with. In fact I know of many who we fellowship with that might even hold to a stronger standard than we do. I love it, it challenges me to examine myself. We have an unfettered pulpit. Why doesn't anybody know anything about Biblical principles? Does the Bible say to not smoke a cigarette? Smoke dope? Drink a beer? No it doesn't. Buy we still preach that is is wrong because the principle of the issue is Biblical. Too many lazy people in the world today that wants everything in black & white. They don't feel the need to interpret scripture. If it is not black & white they just think it isn't a sin. WRONG.

So then who do you fellowship. Are you part of the group that started their own Camp Meeting? I am assuming you are from CA, since you seem to have a relationship of some kind with some of the other posters that have indicated that they are.

If so, is your contention that the people in the WDUPC believe and teach that the things above are OK? I am seriously asking you this, and I am not trying to be a smart alec, I honestly am asking you this?

If this is so, I think that someone somewhere has sold you a pack of lies. Do perhaps some people teach it looser than others, sure! But I think some people make judgments on stuff like this because of things they are told by someone else who has an agenda.

I don't fault anyone for following their convictions or even forming their own fellowship. But I do have a problem with those people thinking they have right to proclaim everyone else who doesn't do it the way that they do it are "going to hell".

As to your question, no I don't think that everyone that calls them self Apostolic is going to heaven, just like I don't think that everyone that is UPC, AMF, WWPF, AA, or any other acronyms you want to throw together is going to heaven. I don't think everybody in my church is going to heaven, but I also don't think that is my job to start picking out the ones from any of these groups that I think are the ones who aren't going to make it. Why on earth would I want that responsibility, and what kind of witness of the love of Christ would I be showing if I started doing that?

The bottom line is, no matter what side of the fence that you fall down on, I DO believe that the ones that make it to heaven will be the ones who have had Christian charity and love for their fellow man, along with whatever standards and requirements that they have or have not followed.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way

Hello. Well I thought I was talking to grown adults and not children. I guess I better be very very specific because the interpretation IQ's are very low around here. Somebody (i think prax.) first made the argument that a man should be able to wear short pants because a woman wears dresses or skirts that are shorter than a regular pair of mans pants. This was his argument, not mine. HE WAS REFERRING TO THE LENGTH WHEN HE MADE HIS ARGUMENT, not the fact that it had a breach like a mans garment. Are you really that naive pelathais? I was referring here to length. If a man wears short pants the length is more like a womans garment. Key word here. LENGTH. YOU NEED TO POINT YOUR CRITICISM AT PRAX BECAUSE HE WAS THE ONE MAKING THE SILLY COMPARISON. I am sorry that you were confused. Not surprised, but sorry you were confused. I will try, next time to remember.

You were referring to length when you said the bible says not to wear that which pertains to a woman? Where in the bible is length exclusively the domain of females? Using your logic then since women wear dresses to their ankles we can't wear pants to our ankles either. See how stupid your argument was?