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08-06-2008, 11:21 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Dr. Vaughn
and what does it say regarding Polygamy? Must I post all the scripture where God endorsed it?
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Hey, that won't take long.... Let's start with Jesus having MULTIPLE brides.
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08-06-2008, 11:22 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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and what does it say regarding Polygamy? Must I post all the scripture where God endorsed it?
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No offense, but do you have a reading problem?
I have already listed it for you four times. See post # 646.
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08-06-2008, 11:22 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Yep, I used that same line in my B.C. days as my excuse for using certain chemicals. But after I was saved I was saw that salvation and sanctification is all about maturing into Christlikeness. That means changing my childish ways to better reflect the man God fashioned me to become.
Like I said TWICE now; God created one man (Adam) and one woman (Eve) to inhabit Eden. According to the hermeneutic Law of First Mention, they are God's PERFECT PATTERN. The Bible admits that in the Old Testament God allowed men to do certain things because of their hard hearts and ignorance. But now, because of the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, men are called to repent of their childish ways and grow into a matured man of God.
I guess the good Doctor needs to show where Jesus (a type of Adam) is said to have multiple brides (the bride is a type of Eve). I can't find any such scripture myself. So please, show us where it is found.
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Did God's perfect pattern include clothing? Are we all supposed to be monogamous nudists? lol
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08-06-2008, 11:22 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
"Concede defeat"? Are you serious? Defeated by what?
I have offered several scriptural reasons why polygamy is not biblical. You, on the other hand, have offered NOT ONE scripture that says Jesus has multiple brides. You have offered NOT ONE scripture that shows polygamy is acceptable in the New Covenant. You have offered NOT ONE scripture that supports anything you're claiming about polygamy being God's acceptable way. Hey Doc, you have not offered anything but your own reasoning, and I can't see where any of that is anything of concern. 
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So you are prepared to tell this forum of readers that YOU plus Me does not equal TWO PERSONS in ONE BRIDE OF CHRIST?
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08-06-2008, 11:23 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by Tim Rutledge
singing...
1 wife. 1 wife, 1 wife is sufficient for me, for me,
1 wife. 1 wife, 1 wife is sufficient for me.
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LOL
I love it.
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08-06-2008, 11:23 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Did God's perfect pattern include clothing? Are we all supposed to be monogamous nudists? lol
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08-06-2008, 11:24 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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So you are prepared to tell this forum of readers that YOU plus Me does not equal TWO PERSONS in ONE BRIDE OF CHRIST?
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Doc, do you know what "MEMBERS" means?
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The Bible is open to those that want Truth, and if they want Truth, they find Truth. They watch individuals squabble over Bible symbolism on the Internet, and leave the Message boards to enter into the real world where live people dwell, and they find Truth. The World Wide Web is full of Internet Ayatollahs who speak their mind. There is only one Truth, and it is not hidden. No matter what anyone says, Truth still converts the sincere.
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08-06-2008, 11:24 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
Hey, that won't take long.... Let's start with Jesus having MULTIPLE brides.
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Oh NO SIR, he has ONE BRIDE with MANY PEOPLE IN IT....
A MANY MEMBERED BRIDE...he is in a marriage relationship with all the people that make up his bride
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08-06-2008, 11:25 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Doc, do you know what "MEMBERS" means?
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Do you know what PERSONS means?
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08-06-2008, 11:26 PM
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Re: Polygamy in the Bible
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
How's this?
SKETCHES OF JEWISH SOCIAL LIFE
By Alfred Edersheim, D. D., Ph. D.
Chapter 9 - Mothers, Daughters, and Wives in Israel
The marriage followed after a longer or shorter interval, the limits of which, however, were fixed by law. The ceremony itself consisted in leading the bride into the house of the bridegroom, with certain formalities, mostly dating from very ancient times…..
It deserves notice, that at the marriage in Cana there is no mention of "the friends of the bridegroom," or, as we would call them, the groomsmen. This was in strict accordance with Jewish custom, for groomsmen were customary in Judaea, but not in Galilee (Cheth. 25 a). This also casts light upon the locality where Joh_3:29 was spoken, in which "the friend of the bridegroom" is mentioned. But this expression is quite different from that of "children of the bridechamber," which occurs in Mat_9:15, where the scene is once more laid in Galilee. The term "children of the bridechamber" is simply a translation of the Rabbinical "bene Chuppah," and means the guests invited to the bridal. In Judaea there were at every marriage two groomsmen or "friends of the bridegroom"--one for the bridegroom, the other for his bride. Before marriage, they acted as a kind of intermediaries between the couple; at the wedding they offered gifts, waited upon the bride and bridegroom, and attended them to the bridal chamber, being also, as it were, the guarantors of the bride's virgin chastity. Hence, when St. Paul tells the Corinthians (2Co_11:2): "I am jealous over you with godly jealousy; for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ," he speaks, as it were, in the character of groomsman or "bridegroom's friend," who had acted as such at the spiritual union of Christ with the Corinthian Church. And we know that it was specially the duty of the "friend of the bridegroom" so to present to him his bride. Similarly it was his also, after marriage, to maintain proper terms between the couple, and more particularly to defend the good fame of the bride against all imputations. It may interest some to know that his custom also was traced up to highest authority. Thus, in the spiritual union of Israel with their God, Moses is spoken of as "the friend of the bridegroom" who leads out the bride (Exo_19:17); while Jehovah, as the bridegroom, meets His Church at Sinai (Psa_68:7; Pirke di R. El. 41)....
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Are there any references to this beyond medieval Jewish custom? For example in rabbinical writings of the Mishnah or Tulmud?
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