More On Beards

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Esaias

So Jesus and the prophets were lazy proud and vain, eh?

Also, I notice that for you a man with an unkempt beard is lazy, but a man with a well-groomed beard is proud or vain?

Meanwhile, sisters are spending more time in the bathroom doing their hair than in the closet praying?

Please, let's just be modest and take care of ourselves, and quit judging people for things the Bible never says.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I have a beard at 5 o clock every day.

i shave it off, but it is still there everyday at 5pm.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Bro, I didn't shave for two weeks I would have enough beard for you and me.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MarieA27

Eh, not trying to start anything. Didn't mean to say that's the only reasons men wear beards, or that is true of all men everywhere.

And you are right about sisters spending so much time on their hair. All the misunderstood preaching about the hair being given to women as her "glory" seems to make women feel justified in doing up their hair in extravagant styles.

Just saying that, in all things, we need to be watchful of what we're doing and why we're doing them.

What is interesting is that there is Scripture admonishing women not to engage in such extravagant styling of the hair:

1 Peter 3:3-4 King James Version (KJV)
3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

Plaiting of the hair was an extravagant form of hair styling in Paul's day.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by MarieA27

Eh, not trying to start anything. Didn't mean to say that's the only reasons men wear beards, or that is true of all men everywhere.

And you are right about sisters spending so much time on their hair. All the misunderstood preaching about the hair being given to women as her "glory" seems to make women feel justified in doing up their hair in extravagant styles.

Just saying that, in all things, we need to be watchful of what we're doing and why we're doing them.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

The saddest thing about the coming persecution and darkness is the realization of how insignificant issues like this are and how we allowed the enemy to divide us.

We are going to look back and realize how good we really had it and how much time we wasted judging one another when we should have been supporting and strengthening our brothers and sisters.

Not your brother or sister because of a varience in standard you dont agree with?

You wont have that luxury anymore when the line is drawn in the sand and the real advarsary is revealed.

When that happens, there will be an ever greater appreciation for those called by His name.

I may sound harsh but there are things God showed me about 9 years ago....when I came back to Him it all came flooding back and then two weeks ago I nearly broke down sobbing when God spoke to me and showed me a vision of a church building being dismantled by God and the occupants being driven out into the harvest forcefully.

God said, "I WILL have a church even if I have to drive my children before Me."

Take it as you will...call me crazy...ask me what steps IM taking as a way of deflecting...I dont care...I just feel something coming...I feel a urgency and a seriousness...a need to truly prioritize.

You're not alone in feeling this.

[Michael The Disciple]

This unfortunate error of beards being counted as a sin should end. And let it end with a humble and heartfelt apology from the Apostolic ministers who have promoted it. Then they should be forgiven.

[n david]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

thats a horribly constructed argument.

I had a better argument, but decided to post the horribly constructed one instead.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

you've literally become the Pharisee smiting your breast, praying loudly that you thank God you arent like the bearded publican in the corner.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

that accusation you made has literally no merit because you paint with a ginormous brush only presenting "evidence" of the few bearded people on the forum being "prideful" therefore it must apply to everyone with a beard.

"Most." Not "everyone." And this is based on personal observation of friends of mine and co-workers. Yes, I have friends who spend a long time trimming, oiling, primping their beards and moustaches to get them to look just so. They take photos of their work and are not bashful about admitting they are PROUD of their beard/moustache.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

There is NOTHING wrong with liking the way you look.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

If I enjoy the fact that I have clean, white, cavity free straight teeth is that pride?

Should I stop brushing to save my soul from hell?

Speaking of horribly constructed arguments . . .

No. One doesn't brush his teeth out of vanity and pride. One does so to keep from getting gingivitis, tooth loss, diabetes and other diseases which have been linked to not brushing your teeth.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I know plenty of humble, non pretentious people with beards but according to your reasoning I must reject my knowledge and experience and stamp them as prideful because of facial hair.

If that's what you took away from the post, then you missed it.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Maybe people need to stop making silly non Biblical rules and trying to enforce them by shaming and threatening people into obedience.

Did someone hack your account? Is this ILG?

[n david]

Originally Posted by shag

For one to broad brush Christian men, whether they have beards, or whether they do not, as either being vain or prideful, is very foolish, and prideful, in my opinion.

But I'll not make the mistake of argueing with you over it, Elder Evangelist Preacher Teacher D. Benincasa.

carry on....

It's not a broad brush, Shag. I was on staff of a church for 8 years where the majority of men wore beards. I have many close friends who grow beards. "Most" of them (church members and close friends) are not afraid to admit their pride and vanity in growing and caring for their beard.

How is posting my experience "prideful?"

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

What is interesting is that there is Scripture admonishing women not to engage in such extravagant styling of the hair:

1 Peter 3:3-4 King James Version (KJV)
3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
4 But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

Plaiting of the hair was an extravagant form of hair styling in Paul's day.

I believe you're misunderstanding the verse here. This isn't a prohibition against something. It's not forbidding anything. It's simply saying to make your beauty be what's inside, not what you wear.