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Old 01-06-2008, 11:41 PM
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What on earth are you thinking about anyway. Do you see the word as a reference to something indecent? NOWAY. Where are people's minds nowadays.

Do people continually think VULGARLY? Are minds gone to to the point that they equate almost every word we use as something dirty and ugly.

Sorry, but I am not of that class of thinkers. I'm just not there.
Were you never smacked upside the head for using a "by word"? That is not exactly cussin but very close to it.
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Old 01-07-2008, 03:18 AM
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What on earth are you thinking about anyway. Do you see the word as a reference to something indecent? NOWAY. Where are people's minds nowadays.

Do people continually think VULGARLY? Are minds gone to to the point that they equate almost every word we use as something dirty and ugly.

Sorry, but I am not of that class of thinkers. I'm just not there.
See Matt? If someone points out racism....they are racists and now pointing out inappropriate language makes US the ones that think vulgarly....that's absurd. We live in an age where people try to turn it around on the others to justify themselves.
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Old 01-06-2008, 02:02 PM
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Well we know this is not a very diverse group from the reasons of creating the organization. There may be something to this.

Maybe they haven't gotten their hands on the multicultural mailing list from HQ. They may need to get a plant to "get" it for them.
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Old 01-06-2008, 02:22 PM
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Well we've been told they invite other UPC ministers to this meeting....are they inviting PAW and AA ministers too?
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Old 01-06-2008, 04:51 PM
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Well we've been told they invite other UPC ministers to this meeting....are they inviting PAW and AA ministers too?
Who knows. They say they are, but all of the people on that committee are either still UPC or have just left. If they are reaching out to everyone, and everybody, to every person that believes the truth, why arent there any PAW's or ALJC people on there?
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Old 01-06-2008, 05:52 PM
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Who knows. They say they are, but all of the people on that committee are either still UPC or have just left. If they are reaching out to everyone, and everybody, to every person that believes the truth, why arent there any PAW's or ALJC people on there?
I am NOT in favor of even a Tulsa meeting, let alone the new Fellowship org that is ALREADY in process.

However, I cannot and will not believe that the list of appointees is indicative of racism...no way!! I have not doubts that appointments were made according to an already, longstanding working relationship.

For instance, BJ Wilmoth is someone Bishop Wilson has mentored since BJ was a pup.

Listen, Bishop Wilson was my pastor at one time and I know for a fact he is NOT a racist...and exclusionist perhaps, but not racist.

What I mean by exclusionist, and I say this respectfully, is that I have first hand knowledge from days gone by that he will refuse fellowship with those whom he feels do not line up with his 'standards' of dress and the rest...that would include the PAW.

So, nothing in his behavior or opinions has caused me to think that he would change at this juncture.
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Am I to surmise that the Tulsa crowd is now being accused of racism as well? Good grief! That's a stretch to say the very least.
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Am I to surmise that the Tulsa crowd is now being accused of racism as well? Good grief! That's a stretch to say the very least.
Time will tell. From the appearance of it, multicultural ministries are not a part of the leadership. We shall see!

Maybe they can read this thread and find a son or son in law to head up this new department....
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This thread might get deleted, but I am going to post it.

If you will look at the list of names on the committees for the World Wide Pentecostal Fellowship at this link, http://www.worldwidepf.com/page.php?ID=6 , you will notice that none of the names on here (and correct me if I am wrong) are African American, Hispanic, or Asian...... WOW. Is this odd or is it just me? All of the preachers on this committee are either still UPC or have recently just dropped their licence. Whats going on? Has anybody else noticed this?
Does it mean there are no minorities with an ultracon leaning?
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There are plenty of minorities that are conservative. Just not in the tulsa good ol boys club. BTW some of the GOB are not conservative. Which means, as usual, "I will tolerate in my friends what I preach against in my enemies". I doubt if you see many minorities with a license. YOU WILL NOT SEE any minorities in position. Not an accusation JMO.
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