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03-13-2007, 09:11 PM
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Jerry Moon
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Defined like this:
At death we do not go straight to Heaven and stand before Yeshua. Rather we go to the grave where we "sleep" or wait until the resurrection. Then we are raised from death and receive eternal life.
Dont know if I am up to a full debate of it right now but interested to know if anyone else believes it. Thanks
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Like Purgatory?
Jerry Moon
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03-13-2007, 09:24 PM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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Why did Paul say we are willing to be absent from the body to present with The Lord?
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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03-13-2007, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Revelationist
Like Purgatory?
Jerry Moon
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How do you get Purgetory from what I said?
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03-13-2007, 10:23 PM
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Perhaps Paul was speaking about being absent from THIS body (the natural body)?
After all, he specifically stated we do not desire to be "unclothed", but rather clothed upon with immortality... which also indicates that we do not receive the fullness of immortality until we are clothed upon with it, which is the resurrection...
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02-08-2008, 01:27 PM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Anyone Here Believe In Soul Sleep?
Soul sleep? Interesting! I will have to admit also, that Saul disturbed (disquieted) Samuel through the Witch of Endor. So, the idea of soul sleep does have merit.
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02-08-2008, 04:25 PM
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Re: Anyone Here Believe In Soul Sleep?
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Originally Posted by Eliseus
Perhaps Paul was speaking about being absent from THIS body (the natural body)?
After all, he specifically stated we do not desire to be "unclothed", but rather clothed upon with immortality... which also indicates that we do not receive the fullness of immortality until we are clothed upon with it, which is the resurrection...
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Yes that is the answer.
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02-08-2008, 04:30 PM
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Re: Anyone Here Believe In Soul Sleep?
i know one thing. the heatherns in my church are not only asleep they are dead. But they will get to heaven first "the dead in Christ shall rise first"
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02-08-2008, 04:38 PM
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America, bless God.
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Re: Anyone Here Believe In Soul Sleep?
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Defined like this:
At death we do not go straight to Heaven and stand before Yeshua. Rather we go to the grave where we "sleep" or wait until the resurrection. Then we are raised from death and receive eternal life.
Dont know if I am up to a full debate of it right now but interested to know if anyone else believes it. Thanks
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Yes, Mike, I believe that is the biblical docrine. Thankfully, my pastor teaches it like this as well.
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02-08-2008, 05:59 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Re: Anyone Here Believe In Soul Sleep?
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Defined like this:
At death we do not go straight to Heaven and stand before Yeshua. Rather we go to the grave where we "sleep" or wait until the resurrection. Then we are raised from death and receive eternal life.
Dont know if I am up to a full debate of it right now but interested to know if anyone else believes it. Thanks
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I do and I know my father John Eckstadt taught it. He was taught it by F.E. Curts.
My dads close friend Frank J Tamel also teaches it and has a book called.
Between death and eternity.
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02-08-2008, 06:01 PM
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"It's Never Too Late"
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Re: Anyone Here Believe In Soul Sleep?
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Soul sleep? Interesting! I will have to admit also, that Saul disturbed (disquieted) Samuel through the Witch of Endor. So, the idea of soul sleep does have merit.
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Was it the witch of Endor an evil spirit. You simply can not prove one with the other.
Otherwise could we talk to the dead in christ?
Don't the catholics pray to them?
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