Yes, I guess common sense tells us it's one person's experience; but notice how the original post begins:
"I think one of the biggest mistakes that the UPC makes..."
That gives the appearance of being a very "broad brush" type of statement.
I guess we could require everyone to start posting IMO before everything they say about UPC.
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I think we all know that it's not representive of all of UPC - not sure anyone has ever said everyone in UPC is the same. When I read someone talking about something that happened to them - I know it's "their experience" and can take it as that.
Renda, the context of the thread is the mistakes of the UPCI.
ergo....
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Renda, the context of the thread is the mistakes of the UPCI.
ergo....
Unsaid - "in her opinion" - - why would she speak for ALL of UPC? I guess I just see it differently and I understand why those that are in UPC feel it's a broad brush.
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I guess we could require everyone to start posting IMO before everything they say about UPC.
or maybe suggest people stick to their own experience and not indict entire organizations unless there is evidence the organization has made a collective decision?
I have no issue with a discussion about what the UPCI has done when the UPCI has done something.
AND I have participated in those types of discussions.
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Not trying to stir the pot, but in your experience have you attended churches that leaves the attendance up to you? They don't encourage everyone to be at every service?
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I know its out there Michael. But I also think it is valid to point out that one personal experience isnt exactly the entire organization.
ILG points out what some folk she knows have done that was wrong. She clearly hasnt experienced all the UPCI as an organization because if she had, her comments would have indicated that.
I am now, and always have been UPCI. I know lots of folk all accross the UPCI and I dont know many who act like what has been pointed out.
Now I went to school with some girls who were indepenant Apostolics who thought it was a sin to shave their legs. It was just nasty.
I have never posted a thread that not shaving legs was the biggest mistake of indepenant apostolics.
I live in Texas. the Church of Christ is huge here and I couldnt believe all the backslidden CoCs Ive met with all kinds of hang ups about the church they were raised in.
If I were going to start listing the UPCIs biggest mistakes, it would likely start
with suffering fools as pastors who bring this kind of reproach on the organization.
I really am sorry for thosee who have sufferd so badly. but that doesnt mean I think this kind of thing is representative of the UPCI as an organization.
The bolded red part sentence should be post of the day!
And, I agree with you, I haven't had any real bad experiences with the UPC, and I defend the UPC for the most part - but I also realize that some HAVE had bad experiences, and I don't want to condescend to them when they are sharing those things.
At the end of the day, a thread like this should encourage those who have had good experiences, like us, to testify to those who haven't had such good experiences and give them hope that there are some good people in the organization.
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No. she still said the UPCI as a whole, as opposed to the churches she was exposed to.
Thank you.
I think a fairer statement would be to say something like "I think the problem in some UPC churches is..."
I think that's a statement most if not all of us could agree with.
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That said, I do agree there are probably some Apostolic churches (not just UPC) that overdo it somewhat.
But as for my own experience, the church I attend has Sunday School, Sunday morning service, and midweek Bible Study. I don't think that's overdoing it at all, and I don't think it's a burden for me to be expected to attend all three of those each week if at all possible. So I guess I've been pretty fortunate in that they allow us a good balance of church life and family life.
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