What's wrong with being relevant?

[MrMasterMind]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

What have they been saying?

With fear and loathing, lumping relevant with all forms of emerging, they create a strawman which must be destroyed at all costs.

Unable to articulate exactly what it is they fear, they vow to fight it, and purge it from their midst.

Content with the status quo, they do not realize what they fear is not a doctrine but the concept of change.

New pastors rising up willing to try new methodologies to promulgate an immutable gospel.

Organizational leaders, on state level as well as national so afraid of things like home churches, marketplace evangelism, the empowerment of the pew, that they condemn all as heresy rather than even contemplate dialogue.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

With fear and loathing, lumping relevant with all forms of emerging, they create a strawman which must be destroyed at all costs.

Unable to articulate exactly what it is they fear, they vow to fight it, and purge it from their midst.

Content with the status quo, they do not realize what they fear is not a doctrine but the concept of change.

New pastors rising up willing to try new methodologies to promulgate an immutable gospel.

Organizational leaders, on state level as well as national so afraid of things like home churches, marketplace evangelism, the empowerment of the pew, that they condemn all as heresy rather than even contemplate dialogue.

Good post ...

And yet they speak of the ever-so-evasive REVIVAL ... been talking about it for years.

Now their existing structures are threatened and rather than dialogue ...they seek to disfellowship.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Good post ...

And yet they speak of the ever-so-evasive REVIVAL ... been talking about it for years.

Now their existing structures are threatened and rather than dialogue ...they seek to disfellowship.

Bull!

[MrMasterMind]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

With fear and loathing, lumping relevant with all forms of emerging, they create a strawman which must be destroyed at all costs.

Unable to articulate exactly what it is they fear, they vow to fight it, and purge it from their midst.

Content with the status quo, they do not realize what they fear is not a doctrine but the concept of change.

(New pastors rising up willing to try new methodologies to promulgate an immutable gospel.)

Organizational leaders, on state level as well as national so afraid of things like home churches, marketplace evangelism, the empowerment of the pew, that they condemn all as heresy rather than even contemplate dialogue.

BUMP

[freeatlast]

Pure Sex, undefiled and holy ??? Is that what scares you El Predictor?

[El Predicador]

Originally Posted by freeatlast

Pure Sex, undefiled and holy ??? Is that what scares you El Predictor?

Dear Brother,

1. I fear nothing except God.

2. I enjoy PRIVATE time with my wife every chance I get.

3. Exposing young teens to a sign on a major highway with the word SEX in six foot letters and having two pair of bare feet coming out from the blankets is not wholesome.

4. I wouldn't want the slogan PURE SEX to be associated with my CHURCH and prominently display on its signage.

5. It is marketing sensationalism, not sharing the gospel.

6. There are other more appropriate venues to approach the subject.

[petrol]

Originally Posted by MrMasterMind

Lately many Oneness organizations have been speaking out vehemently against the "relevant" movement.

What is wrong with being relevant?

When did that become a bad thing?

What is to be gained by continuing to present the gospel in a manner that the "unsaved" consider to be irrelevant?

Was Jesus' message relevant?

There is nothing wrong with being relevant. Some people get all up in arms about it cause it challenges them to get out of the box they are comfortably in...and that creates a problem for them...they can no longer be comfortable that is their problem...(I'm not a big fan of Comfortable (c)hristians)....IMO

[A.W. Bowman]

Originally Posted by petrol

There is nothing wrong with being relevant. Some people get all up in arms about it cause it challenges them to get out of the box they are comfortably in...and that creates a problem for them...they can no longer be comfortable that is their problem...(I'm not a big fan of Comfortable (c)hristians)....IMO

You mean I was not called to be an armchair Christian?

[A.W. Bowman]

Actually, it looks more like yet one more ploy in a long line of attempts to entice people into a church building for another lecture - not an attempt to engage the sinner as a person.

I think that being relevant requires being personally engaged with people, not producing another church program. For example, Relevant, Social significance: Having some bearing on or importance for real-world issues, present-day events, or the current state of society, or having a bearing on or connection with the subject at issue, being pertinent, applicable, germane, related, appropriate, significant, important, etc.

Or, what we say and do can render us unconnected, disconnected, not related, isolated, irrelevant, beside the point, extraneous, not the issue, not pertinent, etc. to the world and the people who are trying to survive living in it. Not knowing this church, the congregation or its pastor. While I cannot prejudge the message/program that will be presented, the message on the sign (words and suggestive illustration) would be enough to keep me from those doors.

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So, at this point I went to the web site of the championlifecentre.org and clicked on the “Watch Current Message” link. Personally I would not hold this series as a “public” teaching, but as a church family teaching? I commend this pastor for his willingness to confront reality and a serious problem that runs through even our oneness families, churches, organizations and its leadership.