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Old 04-22-2009, 11:17 AM
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I believe the whole Ms America thing was started by a couple of guys, years ago, who needed a date for Saturday night.... (aka, Richy and Potsy)
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I find it interesting they had a homosexual for a judge of a beauty pageant. Like how he judge them? Girl, you don't have enough hair on them legs. LOL

Why pick someone that doesn't like women? Strange to me.
I think it was intentional and his question to her, being a Christian, was intentional.

I hope she can sue them and I hope Perez can get arrested for hate crimes against her. He is a sick man
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Old 04-22-2009, 11:59 AM
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it was a contest/game show....and he was a judge....and she had to know that her answer would affect his score for her. that portion is totally subjective.

he has every right to his belief and opinion...as does she...the difference is that he is the one that gives the score.

i respect her for standing up for her beliefs....but find it goofy that people are outraged that a militant homosexual would take offense to this answer...and give her a bad score.
Of course she knew...what was she supposed to do? Lie? On the news they said the pagents usually avoid politically charged things...I doubt she went into this thinking "they are going to have a raging homo on the board and ask me about my faith"...he never should have been allowed to ask her that question in the first place and her opinion never should have been the basis of whether she wins or not. They ask people questions to see if they can form thoughtful responses not how well they can brown nose the judges
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His scoring should have been objective and he wasn't.
exactly! I still don't understand why they got him for a judge.
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The gay thing is outrageous. You cant dare speak against it. It will be a vicious enemy to the Church for a long time.

Yet we cant see the forest for the trees.

The young lady is no doubt very beautiful. But what was she doing out there strutting her stuff before MILLIONS OF PEOPLE?

Isnt that to be saved for her husband she will one day have?

I hate the sin of gay. Yet very sadly this young woman claims to be a Christian. Do Christian women come boldly out almost naked before others?

The truth as it stands is that SHE is more accountable for sin in this matter than the wicked gay revolutionaries who would overthrow ALL the authority of God and his word.

She knows enough to stand against gay. She knows enough to pray for her enemies. That is good.

But she doesnt know enough of YHWH to understand the magnitude of her own sin in parading herself like a porn queen into the living rooms of millions?

What Church does she attend that would approve of this? How many Christians today are praising her stand against gay and giving her a pass for this erotic display she performed?

I feel sorry for her that she has been so terribly deceived about being a disciple of Yeshua.
ok...I don't know you but....

"Porn Queen" ????"Erotic"???? I'm offendened by that. And you are very judgemental about her. That kind of name callin ain't any different that what Perez said.
And, are we livin in the year 1000bc or ad? Living in the day and age we are in, with all the junk, she is beautiful and her heart is beautiful. There should be MORE like her to stand up for the Bible!! Don't feel sorry for her!

Doesn't really matter though what I say....... sorry admin, had to give my 2 cents.
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ok...I don't know you but....

"Porn Queen" ????"Erotic"???? I'm offendened by that. And you are very judgemental about her. That kind of name callin ain't any different that what Perez said.
And, are we livin in the year 1000bc or ad? Living in the day and age we are in, with all the junk, she is beautiful and her heart is beautiful. There should be MORE like her to stand up for the Bible!! Don't feel sorry for her!

Doesn't really matter though what I say....... sorry admin, had to give my 2 cents.
AA,
I'm glad she is standing up for what she believes, but some of her witness is not good for her coming out in public half dressed. IMO, it just is not a good example and confuses those that are lost and in sin.

She's prancing in front of a gay man and audience, quoting what she believes as a Christian. It's too sad to be funny.

Would she be following the scriptures that say, 1Ti 2:9 "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel."?

She can't skirt that scripture no matter what stand she takes on same-sex marriage. This, IMO, is what the world is finding confusion and hypocritical of the church.

On the same note, I heard even a Baptist preacher recently telling his congregation that the church is setting a bad example because our divorce rate matches that of secular society.

We need to do better than this.
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I'm glad she is standing up for what she believes, but some of her witness is not good for her coming out in public half dressed. IMO, it just is not a good example and confuses those that are lost and in sin.

She's prancing in front of a gay man and audience, quoting what she believes as a Christian. It's too sad to be funny.

Would she be following the scriptures that say, 1Ti 2:9 "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel."?

She can't skirt that scripture no matter what stand she takes on same-sex marriage. This, IMO, is what the world is finding confusion and hypocritical of the church.

On the same note, I heard even a Baptist preacher recently telling his congregation that the church is setting a bad example because our divorce rate matches that of secular society.

We need to do better than this.

I understand....but she is NOT a porn queen nor erotic. She is, in this instance, a beauty contestant and was following the rules(dress code choice) of this said contest. Could she have worn a 1 piece, sure. I've only seen 2 outfits that she was in, I didn't watch the pagent in it's entirity. She doesn't need negitive feedback from us. She needs our support regardless. Standing up for Christ and the Bible...TODAY, 2009 is a big deal. We are now in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah. And it will get worse. Get ready.
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I understand....but she is NOT a porn queen nor erotic. She is, in this instance, a beauty contestant and was following the rules(dress code choice) of this said contest. Could she have worn a 1 piece, sure. I've only seen 2 outfits that she was in, I didn't watch the pagent in it's entirity. She doesn't need negitive feedback from us. She needs our support regardless. Standing up for Christ and the Bible...TODAY, 2009 is a big deal. We are now in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah. And it will get worse. Get ready.
She does need us to say - Hey, wait a minute! Are you representing Christ in Word and Deed? The inward and outward are important to our witness - modesty is very important.

If we are in the days of Sodom and Gomorrah then let's dress, in public, a little better.

I did see a clip of the bathing suit portion. They were erotically prancing around some musician. I don't know if he had a guitar or a Sax. I don't remember, but it was erotic for the audience.

She's not going to get a big thumbsup all they way around on this one.
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They are getting ready to discuss it on open line radio & I am surprised that the "liberal" host is defending the candidate!

Nice surprise!
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ok...I don't know you but....

"Porn Queen" ????"Erotic"???? I'm offendened by that. And you are very judgemental about her. That kind of name callin ain't any different that what Perez said.
And, are we livin in the year 1000bc or ad? Living in the day and age we are in, with all the junk, she is beautiful and her heart is beautiful. There should be MORE like her to stand up for the Bible!! Don't feel sorry for her!

Doesn't really matter though what I say....... sorry admin, had to give my 2 cents.
Porn Queen.

Words mean things.

If you call a Ms America contestant in a swim suit, a "porn queen", what do you then call REAL porn "stars"? Is this contestant (and all the rest) now in the same spot light as Jenna Jamison?
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