I am not dissing him based on race! I did not say that was a problem. By just mentioning the NAACP did you presume that I was creating a race card?
If that is the case then things are worse than I thought.
No matter what either of us think about race, the truth is, he is a black man, here in our system, on an international issue! If you think someone like the NAACP is not going to get involved then you must be wiser then me.
Either them or another civil rights group is going to step in and get involved. This is international exposure!
I would bet on it, if I was a betting person!
Civil rights groups and immigrant rights groups are already involved.
His family is appealling to the media in Minneapolis-- a place where there are many Somali immigrants.
When you brought up the NAACP, you brought up race-- you weren't the first one to kind of hint at it.
I just want to make sure since I started this thread that I clearly state that unless someone can validate why race should be discussed, it shouldn't be discussed.
Just trying to set the parameters for a good discussion.
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Civil rights groups and immigrant rights groups are already involved.
His family is appealling to the media in Minneapolis-- a place where there are many Somali immigrants.
When you brought up the NAACP, you brought up race-- you weren't the first one to kind of hint at it.
I just want to make sure since I started this thread that I clearly state that unless someone can validate why race should be discussed, it shouldn't be discussed.
Just trying to set the parameters for a good discussion.
Jermyn
No offense intended friend.
I do get tired of seeing many of those civil rights groups that are totally wrapped up in the political exposure.
Is there ANYWHERE this pirate can get a fair trial in America, given the nature of what he stands accused of?
It will be impossible, simply because it will be tried in the media for the most part. All rhetoric aside the issue is murky. He isn't a US citizen, therefore the rights guaranteed under the constitution are not applicable.
No official state of war exists, so he can't be considered a prisoner of war and afforded the roghts of the Geneva convention.
His country doesn't have the system in place to try him
Like you said. Stupid.
While this may be an upsetting solution to a lot of Americans, me included, the only "smart" thing I see is to turn him over to a world court for justice.
Racists will justify whatever he did because of his color.
Remember:
He good, whitey bad.
I don't think anyone will try to justify his actions.
The question arises when we try to justify AMERICA'S actions in bringing him back here to be tried in our civilian legal system designed for American citizens.
Even spies, in order for them to be spies, have American citizenship and thus, eligible for trial in an American court system.
How does this guy merit a day in an U.S. court?
How can he get a fair trial?
When he is convicted, what will be the punishment?
Why couldn't this act of Somali piracy be considered an Act of War?
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