I wasn't included in this, but I am usually lumped together with Timmy, so I thought I would chime in. Even though I claim to have settled into agnosticism since my apostolic exodus, though a true agnostic would probably take offense!
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
Timmy has such a big influence on this forum, I was curious to know what Timmy actually believes.
Do you believe in God? Yes, but his character, motivations, intentions, etc...are pretty much a mystery, and I don't know if I believe they CAN be known...hence the agnostic term.
Do you believe the bible is the inspired, infallible word of God? No.
Do you believe in the oneness of God? Yes and no. I don't claim to know. But when I think of God / Divinity, I think of Jesus. If I try to assign motivations or characteristics to God, I think of Jesus.
Do you believe acts 2:38 is the plan of salvation? not so much
Do you believe in speaking in tongues? yes and no. I cannot deny that it happens, and I guess I don't believe that in all cases it's some sort of fleshly mass hypnosis. In this area I can only speak of my own experience. I believe that something happened to me. That it was real, and that I was changed because of it. I didn't speak in tongues when that happened, but I did later, and still do at times, much to my own personal astonishment, LOL
Are you a one stepper or three stepper? none of the above. At most, I could be considered a half-stepper.
I would like to ask these questions of KWS and not of works also.
Failure to respond to these questions means revoking my vote for Timmy as GS.
I guess I can't truly be called agnostic, because of the whole Jesus thing.
I just tell it like I see it...You guys can suger coat it all ya want to...lol
I have been told by my wife on many ocassions that I am to blunt..but you are only hurting yourself suger caoting things.....
I just tell it like I see it...You guys can suger coat it all ya want to...lol
I have been told by my wife on many ocassions that I am to blunt..but you are only hurting yourself suger caoting things.....
Who's sugar coating what, KWSS? This seems to be a rather frank discussion to me; but then again I am rather naive at times. Help me out...?
But what happens when you do all that praying and it does not happen healing or anything else for that matter...Do we have a biblical instance of someones prayers not getting answered....
But what happens when you do all that praying and it does not happen healing or anything else for that matter...Do we have a biblical instance of someones prayers not getting answered....
But what happens when you do all that praying and it does not happen healing or anything else for that matter...Do we have a biblical instance of someones prayers not getting answered....
I maintain faith that God is still in control and though I cannot see Him in the situation, like Job I know He sees me. And I do not let it discourage me into believing God does not perform miracles. I have prayed and seen miracles and prayed saw none. Matters not to me.
__________________ ...MY THOUGHTS, ANYWAY.
"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
I maintain faith that God is still in control and though I cannot see Him in the situation, like Job I know He sees me. And I do not let it discourage me into believing God does not perform miracles. I have prayed and seen miracles and prayed saw none. Matters not to me.
I agree. I've had things in my life work out and it could have only been, in my opinion, God. The whole "Healing" subject is one of those things I don't quite understand. I'm afraid I've mostly seen pseudo-healings, if not all. But it doesn't change my faith in God. The straight-forward claims of healing in the New Testament and the lack of it we experience don't reconcile for me. Maybe there's an explanation but I don't have it.
You didn't really ask me... and I know it's because you really don't care about my feelings and such; but anyhoo...
"Timmy has such a big influence on this forum, I was curious to know what Timmy actually believes.
Do you believe in God?
YES!
Do you believe the bible is the inspired, infallible word of God?
"Inspired?"
YES!
"Infallible?"
There are differing ways in which "infallibility" is expressed. There is, for example, the doctrine of Plenary Verbal Inspiration. This means literally: Full word-by-word inspiration. I don't hold to that.
Do you believe in the oneness of God?
YES! - - But again, there are differing views of "Oneness." My own is the "correct" view.
Do you believe acts 2:38 is the plan of salvation?
No. Acts 2:21 expresses the hope and instruction for individual salvation. Acts 2:38 encapsulates the rites of "initiation" into the new life and the empowerment available to sustain that life.
Do you believe in speaking in tongues?
I have never witnessed Acts 2:4-20 occurring at any time in my life nor have I ever experienced this, so "No" if "Acts 2:4" is what you're after. On the other hand, Paul mentions "unknown tongues" and "tongues of angels" in his letter to the Corinthians. I know of no way to substantiate just what that refers to - however I have had deep Spiritual encounters where I spoke "in an unknown tongue."
Are you a one stepper or three stepper?
Acts 2:21 again. One Stepper all the way. Jesus, and Jesus only saves us; and not we ourselves. It is the gift of God, not of works, lest any should boast.
I would like to ask these questions of KWS and not of works also.
Failure to respond to these questions means revoking my vote for Timmy as GS."
Do you believe the bible is the inspired, infallible word of God?
NO...Man wrote it and I really don't think it was God inspired....
Do you believe in the oneness of God?
YES!
Do you believe acts 2:38 is the plan of salvation?
No.
Do you believe in speaking in tongues?
NO... mainly cause it is not done as it was done in the bible...
Are you a one stepper or three stepper?
One Stepper.....After all it's would be kind of hard to sing Amazing Grace and be a 3 stepper cause Grace does not save you according to them...After all he died on the cross to save us of our sins...He did not die on the cross so we can jump through hoops and hurdels to be saved of our sins....
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