Indy - I just saw this. This post is very troubling to me. To boil it down, what I get from this is: The Bible is not the inspired word of God.
So, what do you believe?
Interesting. I never said that. But, for the sake of your interpretation of my post please be just a little more specific.
Was anything I said out of context, or, did I lie about Paul's writings and what has happened with these writings?
Also, have you considered that a majority of the Human Race has never read Scripture? Do you also agree that coming together over these writings (The entire Bible) has been a rather difficult endeavor?
After tirelessly reading so many threads which appear to me to be from various points of view, I've come to this conclusion: the organization seems to be filled with so much confusion, turmoil, and politics...all the while, IMO, God is sitting back wondering when "His" people will get it right.
What organization?
Very few people here belong to the same organization so this is a rather vague reference here
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Amen to rejecting extremism!
Glad to hear from you, and hope you enjoy.
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Extremism? Yeah it does not sound like a lot of fun.
I have lived what some would think is extreme... horse & buggy for transportation etc., but theologically I have never ventured there.
I find it strange when folks think they are the apple of God's eye while all other Christians are drival and dreck.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Bitter? If you take what I'm saying as bitter, you don't know me. Actually, you don't know me at all. I have no bitterness toward what I've observed over the last 10 years; try concerns and prayers for those who are trapped in the same situations as I was and others who may be now. So, to say I'm bitter, then you're saying the same for others who have gone through heartache and pain to get where they're at at this point in their life. I can read, write, and think for myself instead of letting others do it for me. I'm well on my way to Heaven, including some stumbles along the way. But, I'm confident in what I've experienced that it has taught me a valuable lesson worth sharing, which I have. Ironically, there appear to be those who have responded based on their experience(s). Thank you for sharing your thought, though it has no significance at thist point.
Bitter? If you take what I'm saying as bitter, you don't know me. Actually, you don't know me at all. I have no bitterness toward what I've observed over the last 10 years; try concerns and prayers for those who are trapped in the same situations as I was and others who may be now. So, to say I'm bitter, then you're saying the same for others who have gone through heartache and pain to get where they're at at this point in their life. I can read, write, and think for myself instead of letting others do it for me. I'm well on my way to Heaven, including some stumbles along the way. But, I'm confident in what I've experienced that it has taught me a valuable lesson worth sharing, which I have. Ironically, there appear to be those who have responded based on their experience(s). Thank you for sharing your thought, though it has no significance at thist point.
Right on to you Indy,
I heard a sermon once by a young preacher in the org and the title of it was, "It takes Guts to Serve the Lord". It was basically a holiness message, in his home church with zero sinners in attendance. He was preaching the truth, right? Didn't Jesus say that offenses would come? I have heard more than my share of justification of preaching standards as a substitute for the gospel.
It is easy to understand why no sinners would attend.
After WWII, my military father took his wife, my mother, an Englishwoman met on r&r during the war to his home church in Kalamazoo for a service.
It was a PAW church pastored by Bishop Paddock.
They sat in the back. Just so happened that my mother wanted to look presentable for church; she had never been to a pentecostal church before. She dressed as nicely as she could with makeup, etc. The sermon turned into a chastising of all the Jezebel's that were wearing jewelry and makeup, because they were bound for hell.
Problem for the preacher was that she was the only non-regular there; iow, he singled her out.
She's not darkened the doors of another pentecostal church since, except when I talk her into coming to hear me preach when I'm in town.
You can thank "holiness" preaching for that, as if creating an offense is a preacher's prerogative.
Props to you, Indy. Just keep your wineskin new and refreshed...God will keep blessing you, in SPITE of goombahs.
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Bitter? If you take what I'm saying as bitter, you don't know me. Actually, you don't know me at all. I have no bitterness toward what I've observed over the last 10 years; try concerns and prayers for those who are trapped in the same situations as I was and others who may be now. So, to say I'm bitter, then you're saying the same for others who have gone through heartache and pain to get where they're at at this point in their life. I can read, write, and think for myself instead of letting others do it for me. I'm well on my way to Heaven, including some stumbles along the way. But, I'm confident in what I've experienced that it has taught me a valuable lesson worth sharing, which I have. Ironically, there appear to be those who have responded based on their experience(s). Thank you for sharing your thought, though it has no significance at thist point.
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