IF God is Love...

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Amanah

Esau chose to despise the blessings of God.

Therefore he made himself the enemy of God.

James 4:4 says if you chose the world you become the enemy of God, you are opposing God in your mind

either we submit to the government of God, or we submit to the government of the devil.

Jacob= supplanter or deciever, Jacob, I don't think Jacob was any more righteous than Esau??? Jacob showed his greediness and selfishness, why did God seem to love him more than Esau??? Or back to the original question?

[seekerman]

Sooooo.....we're saying that hate doesn't really mean hate?

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Sooooo.....we're saying that hate doesn't really mean hate?

i just showed that the word hate of the time had different meanings, and one has to use context to examine what is being said.


look at what i posted about rachel and leah, the same word yet Jacob didnt hate leah to a point he didnt sleep with her. cmon there is some applicable common sence in this.

do you also understand what a hyperbole is?

hy·per·bo·le/hīˈpərbəlē/Noun: Exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally

its expressions in writings. and the author of genesis stated jacob hated leah.

but it was not a hatred as we use today like muslims hate christians and want to kill them .... No it was a Love less

I love rachel more than i do leah.
so it has to be used in the context which is given, same goes for your point as well. i even showed you the lexicon definitions for some added spice

[Arphaxad]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Sooooo.....we're saying that hate doesn't really mean hate?

Why don't YOU define hate for all of us.

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by acerrak

i just showed that the word hate of the time had different meanings, and one has to use context to examine what is being said.


look at what i posted about rachel and leah, the same word yet Jacob didnt hate leah to a point he didnt sleep with her. cmon there is some applicable common sence in this.

do you also understand what a hyperbole is?

hy·per·bo·le/hīˈpərbəlē/Noun: Exaggerated statements or claims not meant to be taken literally

its expressions in writings. and the author of genesis stated jacob hated leah.

but it was not a hatred as we use today like muslims hate christians and want to kill them .... No it was a Love less

I love rachel more than i do leah.
so it has to be used in the context which is given, same goes for your point as well. i even showed you the lexicon definitions for some added spice

Ok, now I think I understand what hyperbole is. An example of Jesus and hyperbole would be....

Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Ok, now I think I understand what hyperbole is. An example of Jesus and hyperbole would be....

Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

ok i see you have a half empty bucket, maybe when you want to get serious in this discussion we can continue

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by acerrak

ok i see you have a half empty bucket, maybe when you want to get serious in this discussion we can continue

I think you're missing the point. You want hyperbole when you need hyperbole and you want hate when you need hate.

[Arphaxad]

Originally Posted by seekerman

I think you're missing the point. You want hyperbole when you need hyperbole and you want hate when you need hate.

So you hate your family?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Arphaxad

So you hate your family?

No, I rewrite the bible in that particular passage, as does everyone.

[houston]

EVERYTHING in the bible is literal. When's the last time someone plucked out their eye or cut off a limb? Afterall, Jesus said to do it...