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Old 09-09-2011, 12:07 PM
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IF God is Love...

IF God IS love then why did God hate Esau?
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:17 PM
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Re: IF God is Love...

Esau chose to despise the blessings of God.

Therefore he made himself the enemy of God.

James 4:4 says if you chose the world you become the enemy of God, you are opposing God in your mind

either we submit to the government of God, or we submit to the government of the devil.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:23 PM
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Re: IF God is Love...

That doesn't really answer the question though
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:33 PM
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God hated what Esau represented which was the flesh, the old man, Adam. while his brother jacob represented the new man, the inward man, of the promise..
Esau represented what we were,


God's whole plan is about the new creation; which is Christ in us..
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:41 PM
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Re: IF God is Love...

Just because God is love does not mean He cannot hate. Being love means it is the greatest part of His nature. That means He has other aspects, but He is not said to BE those aspects as He is said to BE love.
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:57 PM
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Well if God can hate then is hate part of His nature too?
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Old 09-09-2011, 12:58 PM
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IF God IS love then why did God hate Esau?
In that day you’ll find that in an adoption, if one was chosen and the other not, it was said that one was loved and the other hated. It’s not really a hate like we think of today but just a term in those days.
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Old 09-09-2011, 01:01 PM
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Re: IF God is Love...

Jude 1:21 says we are to keep ourselves in the love of God

Deuteronomy 7:7-13 If he keep his commandments he loves us, if we don't keep his commandments he will destroy us
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Well if God can hate then is hate part of His nature too?
If all things came from God, then does both love and hate come from God? Perhaps, we really don't have a complete handle on God? Perhaps, he is pure love, but can disseminate hate in a way we do not understand? Perhaps, this a situation of an ant (us) attempting to understand the mind of an elephant (God)?
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Re: IF God is Love...

He hated Esau so his purpose according to election might stand.

9:11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth
9:12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. Romans 9:11-13
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