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Old 10-10-2013, 08:48 AM
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Re: October/Halloween...

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I heard he went down to Georgia for a soul to steal...didn't know he killed people, too.

Well, as adults we realize the premise of that scripture, but to a five year old all she heard was "kill people".
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:58 AM
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Timmy, get your story straight.

I never told her that the Devil would kill her. Now let's back up.

She said, “Aunt Sara told her a story about the grim reaper. Was the Devil the grim reaper.”

I said, “Uhh I don't know about that, but the Devil likes to kill people.”

Is it that you, Jimmy don't believe there is a Devil? Or do you not believe that he 'comes to steal, kill, and destroy," but don't tell her that there is a real Devil

Aunt Sara could tell her about the scary grim reaper, which was probably full of fantasy and lies, but don't tell her that there is a real Devil?

They see all kinds of scary things on TV, but don't tell them there is a real devil. Not one with a red suit and horns, but may be lurking, in evil thoughts, hate, greed, lies.
Sorry, I should have said if he kills her.
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Old 10-10-2013, 09:59 AM
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I'm a bit confused on "the devil likes to kill people".......
"The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: ..."

John 10:10
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Re: October/Halloween...

But this is definitely a difference between metaphorical killing - as in "the wages of sin is death," the battle for one's soul - and thinking that in the middle of the night some spooky devil is going to "get you in your sleep" and kill you. And both are sensitive topics for a 5 year old...
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But this is definitely a difference between metaphorical killing - as in "the wages of sin is death," the battle for one's soul - and thinking that in the middle of the night some spooky devil is going to "get you in your sleep" and kill you. And both are sensitive topics for a 5 year old...
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I heard he went down to Georgia for a soul to steal...didn't know he killed people, too.

Well, he WAS in a bind because he was way behind and looking to make a deal.
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When he came across this young man sawin' on a fiddle and playin' it hot.
And the devil jumped upon a hickory stump and said: "Boy let me tell you what:
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I bet you didn't know it, but I'm a fiddle player, too.
And if you'd care to take a dare I'll make a bet with you.
Now you play a pretty good fiddle, boy, but give the Devil his due.
I'll bet a fiddle of gold against your soul 'cause I think I'm better than you."
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Old 10-10-2013, 01:11 PM
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Go ahead, tell her about Jesus, but your views on Halloween, Christmas, Easter and the rest should be left to her parents. Tell her the Gospel story, that's fine. But leave the rest, and your opinion of it, out of the discussion.
My grandparents, who were not 'religious' by any stretch, had NO problem telling ANYONE what they thought. Little kids, grown adults, you name it. If they had an opinion, and felt you needed to know it, then you heard it.

I think we're blowing things out of proportion here... I've had to deal with 'grandma' telling my kids Halloween was just fine... they asked me, I explained things to them, and they learned that Grandma's opinions on religion are irrelevant. Not that I told them THAT, but over the years, studying scripture on their own, they all came to that same conclusion.

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It's not your place to tell her you don't like Halloween, and especially to tell her it's the devil's night.

I'd have been really upset if I wasn't in church and was planning on taking my daughter out to get candy on Halloween, only to have some family member tell her it's the devil's night.
Of course you'd be upset, just as if (in the same situation) some family member told your child they needed to be saved by the Lord Jesus or wind up in hell.


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The girl mentioned Halloween, then was told her GG didn't like it. Of course the girl is going to ask why. IMO, that statement should have been left out. It doesn't matter whether she likes it or not. It's not her place to tell her. And it's especially not her place to talk about it being the devil's night and how the devil likes to kill people.
Thankfully, none of my grandkids will ever do the Halloween thing, as all my children believe we should avoid pagan holy days.

IF, tho, one of my grandkids were to come visit and ASK ME what I thought about Halloween, I would have no problem telling them I didn't 'do' Halloween, because it's pagan and not of God. They'd get a history lesson (suitable for their age) from Samhain to All Hallow's, from druid to pope, from then to now.

Truth is applicable to all, the only difference age or person makes has to do with the method of delivery.
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