When is prayer effective?

[Sasha]

Originally Posted by JacobSauceda

I see it this way. We pray for cake, and God gives us flower and eggs. We sometimes gotta do some of the work.

Please don't ever make cake. Just let God give it to you. LOL!

[A239]

Originally Posted by Sasha

Please don't ever make cake. Just let God give it to you. LOL!

I don't. I'm better at pasta based foods lol (I don't make my own noodles of course lol)

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by JacobSauceda

I see it this way. We pray for cake, and God gives us flower and eggs. We sometimes gotta do some of the work.

God gave you flour and eggs? Hey, that's pretty cool!

[shazeep]

that was a cool analogy, imo.

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by shazeep

ah, ok, just found Larry Wood's study on this. His model is somewhat unique, and has some unique, although generally intuitive, terminology.

http://www.biblenews1.com/grace/gracea.htm#Problem Solving Device

either add "...Solving Device" back into the link, or just scroll about 90% down the page.

i will say that i am 'spoiling' this, due to the higher maturity level of most Christians here; so i hope that too much of the impact is not lost. If you wonder why prayer does not seem to be effective in a situation, this may provide some answers.

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