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Old 05-18-2015, 05:15 PM
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Re: Sitting under a pastor?

I know some people who have ruined there health trying to be skinny so that is why I felt to chime when in it was said that it was a reproach for people to be overweight. I think the content of character is a better way to judge people and not by image.
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Who gets to judge which is which? Lets do this. Tell us the things you believe are MAJOR.
For any group I would think that "major" would be their core salvational doctrines. By minor I mean things that are not salvational such as church government, eschatology, etc.

For example at my church I know there is one elder who doesn't believe we should celebrate Holidays. I sincerely believe he has the right to be wrong on this issue as he is. However I don't stop going to my church because a elder has this belief and he doesn't stop coming because the pastor doesn't preach this from the pulpit.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

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Just being curious .... What were the names of the Pastors of the 1st Century Churches at Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippi, Colosse, or Thessalonica? I can't seem to find the name of an individual serving in such a capacity in any of the New Testament letters written to these churches? Just wondering who the Pastors were that the saints of these churches were "sitting under"?
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gluttony is a sin being overweight from it is irrelevant. gluttony is a sin even if you are not overweight from it.
That's why I said overweight due to gluttony. Admit it. Most overweight people eat too much. Most.
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Just being curious .... What were the names of the Pastors of the 1st Century Churches at Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippi, Colosse, or Thessalonica? I can't seem to find the name of an individual serving in such a capacity in any of the New Testament letters written to these churches? Just wondering who the Pastors were that the saints of these churches were "sitting under"?
Don't ask, let it go.

Good question though.
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For the most part it means showing up at the meeting and listening to the sermon. Not much more than that.

Oh, Michael! You failed to mention retrieving one of those small envelopes, usually located near the doorway leading to the auditorium, in which you're expected, yea, demanded, to deposit a minimum of 10% of the "filthy lucre" you earned from your labors since your previous visit. After repeated visits, and failing to do so, will surely result in a private consultation with the "sitting pastor," who will indoctrinate you on this requirement. LOL
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Oh, Michael! You failed to mention retrieving one of those small envelopes, usually located near the doorway leading to the auditorium, in which you're expected, yea, demanded, to deposit a minimum of 10% of the "filthy lucre" you earned from your labors since your previous visit. After repeated visits, and failing to do so, will surely result in a private consultation with the "sitting pastor," who will indoctrinate you on this requirement. LOL
Private? Not anymore!
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Just being curious .... What were the names of the Pastors of the 1st Century Churches at Rome, Corinth, Galatia, Ephesus, Philippi, Colosse, or Thessalonica? I can't seem to find the name of an individual serving in such a capacity in any of the New Testament letters written to these churches? Just wondering who the Pastors were that the saints of these churches were "sitting under"?
From history, scholars believe these:

Rome: Clement
http://www.christianity.com/church/c...-11629592.html

Galatia: Crescen
http://www.mycrandall.ca/courses/ntintro/Gal.htm

Ephesus: John / Timothy
http://www.biblepath.com/john1.html
http://www.voiceofonecrying.com/lead...rly_church.htm

Philippi: Luke
http://www.abideinchrist.com/messages/philintr.html

Colosse: Epaphras
http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/...ian-Church.htm

Corinth: Unknown
Thessalonica: Unknown
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Pastors are literally shepherds, and that means sheep must be under the pastor/shepherd, like sheep are under a shepherd. So if there were not any people under the pastor, then there were not pastors like the bible says there were!

If there were pastors, then who were they and who were the sheep who were guided by these shepherds?
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Pastors are literally shepherds, and that means sheep must be under the pastor/shepherd, like sheep are under a shepherd. So if there were not any people under the pastor, then there were not pastors like the bible says there were!

If there were pastors, then who were they and who were the sheep who were guided by these shepherds?
With the invention of the internet that can reach into remote areas could people be shepherd using this technology I wonder?

What's your take on this?
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