Tattoos

[diakonos]

Originally Posted by n david

https://www.instagram.com/p/CCj7i5aFqpI/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CCe1qpbldK6/

Pre or post conversion?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Pre or post conversion?

Good question. The prohibition against tattooing is not a prohibition against HAVING them. A person with tattoos who then becomes a Christian should not be bothered by their brethren about tattoos. And even if a Christian did get a tattoo (almost certainly out of ignorance concerning the divine prohibition) there is such a thing as repentance and moving on.

The whole issue applies primarily to the person contemplating getting a tattoo, and secondarily to the person who got one and needs to acknowledge that doing so was a transgression of God's law.

It's not like we don't have bigger fish to fry...

[n david]

Originally Posted by diakonos

Pre or post conversion?

That's a good question.

I don't agree, however, with this "Apostolic" company using him or other guys with tats as models for their "Apostolic" shirts.

It's one thing to have tats from before you were saved and not remove them but not flex them either.

This dude, and a couple others, are showing them off like it's okay to have tats and be Apostolic.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by n david

That's a good question.

I don't agree, however, with this "Apostolic" company using him or other guys with tats as models for their "Apostolic" shirts.

It's one thing to have tats from before you were saved and not remove them but not flex them either.

This dude, and a couple others, are showing them off like it's okay to have tats and be Apostolic.

So if its such a problem with you and we are called to the ministry of reconciliation and you are obviously burdened about this are you opening up a tattoo removal ministry?


I mean you're harping on something that turns into making the sinner the loser no matter what even if the repent.


So they suppose to wear a burqua from head to toe lest they lead the innocent into sin?


Whats your answer to all this for making it right?


Everybody just swirling around the drain while you watch with your hand on the flushing lever.


Wheres the redemption story in that?

[diakonos]

You quoted but didn’t read his post. Good grief.

[n david]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

So if its such a problem with you and we are called to the ministry of reconciliation and you are obviously burdened about this are you opening up a tattoo removal ministry?

Nope

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I mean you're harping on something that turns into making the sinner the loser no matter what even if the repent.

So they suppose to wear a burqua from head to toe lest they lead the innocent into sin?

Whats your answer to all this for making it right?

Everybody just swirling around the drain while you watch with your hand on the flushing lever.

Wheres the redemption story in that?

Perhaps you missed what I posted above. Let me explain it a little clearer hopefully for you...

I know good men in church who, prior to their conversion, had tattoos. After getting in church, they obviously still had the tattoos but they didn’t show them off or do anything that would appear to be promoting tattoos.

The two photos I linked to literally has a guy flexing in one photo showing not only his forearm tats, but his upper arms as well. The other photo is just as blatant.

If you can’t see it, I can’t help you.

They may have the tattoos from before salvation but it doesn’t mean they need to glorify them or show them off like in the photos above.

[consapente89]

Our church is full of pre-conversion tats. Most try to cover them as much as possible. I don’t know of anyone who is showcasing them. Guy in the pic was def showcasing them. Even after we have been washed, sanctified and justified, we shouldn’t be proud of the thing that we are washed of. The desire to flaunt tats is the desire to identify with the world.

But to be fair, if your sippin jack and using cannabis in between your glossolalia...I really wouldn’t expect you to have real great judgment about tats either..

[n david]

Originally Posted by diakonos

You quoted but didn’t read his post. Good grief.

He likes to bloviate.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by n david

He likes to bloviate.

I learned from the best 😁

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Jesus turned water into alcoholic wine so everyone could get drunk. Nothing wrong with cannabis as long as you’re sanctified enough to handle the effects. And now there is no scriptural basis against tattoos. This forum sure is producing a strange breed of “Apostolic”.

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Welcome to the New Age Apostolic Church. With all the craziness we’re seeing in the world, you don’t think it creeps in unawares in the church?...

Unless you're a newborn in Christ (and maybe not even then), losing your salvation doesn't happen all at once, it's a process. Some people forget that falling away occurs in degrees. The longer you've been serving the Lord, the less likely you are just to fall straight into sin. You're far more likely to get drawn away from the Lord through the enticement of your own lusts, and then fall into sin.

Originally Posted by Esaias

Two separate clauses: no cuttings for the dead (that's one clause) NOR (a negative conjunction joining two clauses) print any marks upon you (a second clause). Two clauses, two things. It does not read "no cuttings nor printing any marks for the dead", but "no cuttings for the dead nor printing any marks upon you."

I was about to make that same point, but you beat me to it.

Originally Posted by Esaias

One thing we have to keep in mind is that while all things may be lawful they may not be expedient (smart) and we aren't supposed to be living by the rule of "What is the least I can get by with?" but rather "Father, what do YOU want me to do?"

Originally Posted by consapente89

But to be fair, if your sippin jack and using cannabis in between your glossolalia...I really wouldn’t expect you to have real great judgment about tats either..