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09-13-2007, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by RevBuddy
Mfblume,
Now you're missing the whole point of the thread...NOT to get trapped in the minutiae...
I believe we agree...you and I are spiritually mature because we are maturing spiritually...how abut that?
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I know it is a side issue, but I LOVE this issue so much and how it gets into practical behaviour in this life.  But when anyone starts a thread about that, it dies due to lack of involvement. Forgive me for indulging the issue here. Gotta talk about it somewhere! lol
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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09-13-2007, 11:22 AM
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This is what I absolutly love about scripture... it does not hide the "thorns"...
Romans 7:17-19 (King James Version)
17Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. |
Notice that verse 25 shows the remedy!? " 24O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? 25I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord." This is why I believe Paul was only speaking of HIS PAST FAILURES, which caused him to analyze the situation and learn what he wrote in chapter 6.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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09-13-2007, 11:22 AM
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No problem mon...
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09-13-2007, 11:26 AM
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No problem mon...
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Paul did not leave the issue as though he had an unanswered question, "Who shall deliver me?" He gave the answer! God. He thanked God who delivers through Jesus Christ. Hence, 6 through 7:4 says we DIED through Christ's death. The remedy! So this shows how Paul came to learn what he did in chapter 6 by the ordeal of his past in 7:19-23. Paul did not have the problem of 7:19-23 when he wrote Romans. It was a recount of his past and how he learned through it of the truth of "deliverance THROUGH CHRIST".
Anyway, sorry for continuing in this vein. I absolutely love this portion of scripture. It's my favourite. 
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09-13-2007, 11:26 AM
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Past failures??????
Are you kidding me?? My PAST failures can be just a few minutes ago!!
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09-13-2007, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RevBuddy
Past failures??????
Are you kidding me?? My PAST failures can be just a few minutes ago!!
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Not if you're walking in the Spirit ... 
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09-13-2007, 11:28 AM
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Another thing...we're "looking unto Jesus," not standing beside Him...
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09-13-2007, 11:28 AM
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Past failures??????
Are you kidding me?? My PAST failures can be just a few minutes ago!!
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Dan gave the answer!
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09-13-2007, 11:29 AM
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Another thing...we're "looking unto Jesus," not standing beside Him...
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We are coming to the fullness of the stature of Christ.
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09-13-2007, 11:30 AM
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We're talking about achieved spiritual maturity...Paul clearly tells us that sometimes were "on game" and sometimes we're not...
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