Question: what's so wrong, from a Oneness point of view, with praising the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost? These are manifestations of God, right? Isn't the Father worthy of praise? Isn't the Son? Isn't the Holy Ghost?
Does it always bother you to see a list of the three, like that? I dunno, can't see how a list of the manifestations automatically implies a belief in the Trinity.
You're right. It's just my upbringing comin' out in me, I guess!
Question: what's so wrong, from a Oneness point of view, with praising the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost? These are manifestations of God, right? Isn't the Father worthy of praise? Isn't the Son? Isn't the Holy Ghost?
Does it always bother you to see a list of the three, like that? I dunno, can't see how a list of the manifestations automatically implies a belief in the Trinity.
Timmy my question is why is it generally Father and Son exalted and not the Holy Spirit? Seems like the 3rd person gets the shaft in most cases. But to answer your statement I have NO problem praising HIM as Father-Son-Holy Ghost or the other 1001 titles of Jesus.
Timmy my question is why is it generally Father and Son exalted and not the Holy Spirit? Seems like the 3rd person gets the shaft in most cases. But to answer your statement I have NO problem praising HIM as Father-Son-Holy Ghost or the other 1001 titles of Jesus.
OK, that's cool. The question was in the context of the Doxology:
Praise God, from Whom all blessings flow;
Praise Him, all creatures here below;
Praise Him above, ye heav’nly host; Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.
Are you OK with this song? Sherri refuses to sing it. Crakjak changes the words (I may have jumped to conclusions, but I think he meant the bolded part, above).
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Much has been said about Tulsa, the UPC's Resolution #4 and even the P.A.W. lately. Obviously there are some serious concerns in the Apostolic movement about the laying down of spiritual disciplines and changing of direction that many groups are experiencing.
The reason? It seldom stops once the decline starts. One recent example is exemplified by the vote the College of Bishops of the P.A.W. (Similar to our General Board) just had in which they voted 55 to 58 to basically accept the trinitarian movement and allow them as Brothers and Sisters in their pulpits.
Can you imagine that one of the strongest doctrinal groups that ever lived is now only THREE votes away from accepting trinitarians as right? Look at them closely and you'll see (a fact that was even acknowledged by Bishop Morris E. Golder) a gradual decline that covered the entire spectrum beginning at a disregarding of Apostolic disciplines, overlooking sin to keep talent, ignoring false doctrines and now accepting heresy as doctrinally viable.
THREE votes... The oldest oneness organization and the greatest doctrinal preachers I've ever heard are now three votes away from accepting heresy.
God wake us up.
I heard today from a preacher this morning that the PAW is accepting Once Saved Always Saved as doctrinal.
This doesn't surprise me at all the PAW doesn't believe fat meets greasy, so why should I expect them to be viable in any other path the trod.
Resolution 4 was a bad move at a bad time. Benny Hinn, Paula and Randy White, Eddie Long, Copeland, Kenneth and Gloria, and Joyce "Jewelry" Meyers are being investigated by the Feds. America needs True Blue Holiness and not carbon copy of Joel Olsteen and T.D. Jakeisms.
Preach the real thing and not mass produced Charismatic spew.
No one is looking to throw money and yet another televangelist or organization on TV. They have already endured the jokers across America, now they need reformers who will call it like it is and refuse to compromise with the Colgate, and Brill Creme crew.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
I heard today from a preacher this morning that the PAW is accepting Once Saved Always Saved as doctrinal.
This doesn't surprise me at all the PAW doesn't believe fat meets greasy, so why should I expect them to be viable in any other path the trod.
Resolution 4 was a bad move at a bad time. Benny Hinn, Paula and Randy White, Eddie Long, Copeland, Kenneth and Gloria, and Joyce "Jewelry" Meyers are being investigated by the Feds. America needs True Blue Holiness and not carbon copy of Joel Olsteen and T.D. Jakeisms.
Preach the real thing and not mass produced Charismatic spew.
No one is looking to throw money and yet another televangelist or organization on TV. They have already endured the jokers across America, now they need reformers who will call it like it is and refuse to compromise with the Colgate, and Brill Creme crew.
The bolded print above is just plain silly... It wasn't a bad move at a bad time. It was a good move and the time was right..
And if you think the ones who have and are going to use TV, want to mimic Osteen, you are nuts. The whole point of us being on TV is to preach the real gospel... The ones who got the resolution through are the ones who think it is about time the world hears the real thing...
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Always put off 'till tomorrow what you should not do at all.
The bolded print above is just plain silly... It wasn't a bad move at a bad time. It was a good move and the time was right..
And if you think the ones who have and are going to use TV, want to mimic Osteen, you are nuts. The whole point of us being on TV is to preach the real gospel... The ones who got the resolution through are the ones who think it is about time the world hears the real thing...
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