Santa Maria boasts about their great BBQ but that's probably not far north enough.
Yeah we have these fish places, kinda like going to a deli. Walk up to the counter and order. The fish is often local caught and even when not is pretty fresh.
One place recently opened. They have their own boat and docks next to the place...Its really a treat on a SoCal sunny day to go there and eat outside.There's a Sushi place next door. That's not even in the harbor and we have 2 harbors
Then we got the usual suspects. Joe's Crab Shack. Red Lobster. It doesn't take more than 30 Min to find a good place. I wish we had more good steak places but for now I have to be satisfied with outback. LA and SD and Santa Barbara all have a Ruths Chris I think
OH!!! I've been to a GREAT BBQ place just north of Santa Maria! I think it was close to the ocean.
I don't like fish, in case you can't tell. I did until I cleaned one. I've never eaten it again. I promise never to watch a cow slaughtered. I'll starve to death.
I have a hard time finding a steakhouse that matched what I make on the grill. I've gotten to where I never order it out anymore. When I eat out, I wanna get something I can't have at home.
Wow..finally a check list for the Ultra Cons slide into reprobation.
Possesses a knowledge of God? CHECK!
Refuse to Honor God or give thanks to Him. CHECK! (they are saving themselves after all by their works
Believe you know more than God CHECK! (let's add man made rules because God didn't know better to warn us about the hippie movement and beards)
Worships self. Check!
Unlimited, unchecked sinfulness? I don't even know what that means but how many of us have witnessed Ultra Cons sin? Oh they sin! They just excuse it
Perversion of Gender and Sexual Roles? I suppose our Ultra Con friends here haven't perverted gender or sexual roles....well at least those that aren't gay or haven't yet been caught exposing themselves in bathrooms at public parks.CHECK!
Fusion with groups that that accept or tolerate perversion? Again the UCs don't seem to do that. they split from other groups taking their perversions with them.
Now, on the serious side the only perversion going on here is your perversion of the word and of what others have said.
Nobody here has refused to honor God or give Him thanks
Nobody here claims to believe more than God
Nobody here is worshiping self
I don't see anyone with "unlimited, unchecked sinfulness"
Perversion of gender roles? We have a person that admits he has always struggled with same sex attractions. How many UCs struggle with attractions to another man's wife? Is that a sin? Where is the UC's attempt to help this person? None at all. What they offered was sick sexual innuendo and condemnation. Where has the help been? None. Why don't more come out and admit they struggle with this? Because they are surrounded by Charnocks who offer guilt for temptations not solutions
Fusion with groups that that accept or tolerate perversion? Wow, what a lie. What has happened was a person was received, not his "perversion". In fact in every step along the way not one person condoned homosexuality or any homosexual act.
But this is to be expected from the likes of Charnock. This is why so many are afraid to admit they have a struggle with this even in their own ranks. Because they offer no solutions to healing, but only lies, mockery (go get a room), sexual innuendo (the baseball team) and condemnation
Who said anything about ultracons? I haven't seen any on this thread.
It's a sad day when a person is considered an ultracon simply because he speaks against the sin of homosexuality, and the people who accept it as normative Christian behavior.
Prax, there is no one, and I do mean NO POSTER, who is more aggressive than you. I have no idea how you remain an admin. You are completely acerbic, biased and insulting.
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Who said anything about ultracons? I haven't seen any on this thread.
It's a sad day when a person is considered an ultracon simply because he speaks against the sin of homosexuality, and the people who accept it as normative Christian behavior.
Prax, there is no one, and I do mean NO POSTER, who is more aggressive than you. I have no idea how you remain an admin. You are completely acerbic, biased and insulting.
Who said anything about Ultra Cons?....me, haven't you been paying attention?
What some here want to know is, why do you think you need to repeat yourself about the sin of homosexuality and "those that accept it as normative Christian behavior" ad nauseum?
This has been said to you before but where is anyone saying it is normative Christian behavior? Where did anyone say they are accepting of the sin? Where did you get the idea anyone here does not know already what the bible says about sexual sins? Are you really reading what others are saying or are you just ranting aimlessly?
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There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Thank you! You make several eye-opening points. Thank you for putting up with us. This is a very scary subject for almost everyone and frequently the ugliness is the result of ignorance more than hatred. I'm very accepting of people that are gay and heck, the subject scares me to death. I'm not exactly sure what to do with all this, but there is no question at all what to do with you or anyone else in your shoes, and that is, to love you and accept you unconditionally.
Thank you for giving us (Followers of Christ) a chance and thank you for not fleeing for the hills when the hurtful rhetoric began.
Interesting thread. Those vocal against homosexuality are not loving, LOL, give me a break. The rest of ya are over compensating with all this "love" stuff.... There's glitter in the air.
A person that wants to change needs all the love that he can receive. When you have a person that says he'd be in a m2m relationship when given the occassion, he does NOT need all the lovey sentiment. His mind interprets that as acceptance. Acceptance of homosexuality.
Interesting thread. Those vocal against homosexuality are not loving, LOL, give me a break. The rest of ya are over compensating with all this "love" stuff.... There's glitter in the air.
A person that wants to change needs all the love that he can receive. When you have a person that says he'd be in a m2m relationship when given the occassion, he does NOT need all the lovey sentiment. His mind interprets that as acceptance. Acceptance of homosexuality.
This thread isn't about homosexualities and whether we should be vocal against the sin. It was a thread to welcome someone to the forum and several people have taken it as their chance to tell this individual, in many different ways and different attempts that he is going to hell, as if he does not already heard this.
It doesn't work for Fred Phelps and it isn't working for these guys. All it does is make those that have this temptation in their own ranks more afraid to seek help
In addition these people lie when they speak of others here accepting homosexuality, when in fact what they did was accept an individual and made it clear did not accept or condone homosexuality
Why don't you go back and read through all the sexual innuendos et al and tell us then if what they did was in love
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Interesting thread. Those vocal against homosexuality are not loving, LOL, give me a break. The rest of ya are over compensating with all this "love" stuff.... There's glitter in the air.
A person that wants to change needs all the love that he can receive. When you have a person that says he'd be in a m2m relationship when given the occassion, he does NOT need all the lovey sentiment. His mind interprets that as acceptance. Acceptance of homosexuality.
Ridiculous Post of The Day.
First, some who have been vocal against homosexuality have been very loving even inviting Azzan to visit. Second...."Over-compensating with this love stuff"? What a ridiculous thing to say. Is that even possible???.....to "over-compensate with "love-stuff"?
"And I pray that Christ will be more and more at home in your hearts as you trust in him. May your roots go down deep into the soil of God's marvelous love. And may you have the power to understand, as all God's people should, how wide, how long, how high, and how deep his love really is. May you experience the love of Christ, though it is so great you will never fully understand it. Then you will be filled with the fullness of life and power that comes from God." (Ephesians 3:17-19)
Where do you come up with this stuff???
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