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Old 10-02-2007, 08:17 PM
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For myself, I've never managed to sit through an entire Veggie Tale. I don't say that to criticize the Veggies, maybe it's a problem with me.

In any event, two of my nephews got the Holy Ghost after a Sunday School outreach that included a couple of Veggie Tales programs.
Why am I not surprised.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:45 PM
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Why am I not surprised.
You rejoice with me?
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:37 PM
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You rejoice with me?
no, he's not rejoicing with you, he's saying you and your nephews have counterfit versions of the holy ghost because you won't say veggietales are evil...
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:41 PM
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How many people do you know who have received the Holy Ghost from watching Veggie Tales? Also since you are asking me to argue this issue with you are you then saying that YOU believe that children and young people can receive the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking with tongues by watching the Veggie Tales?

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Old 10-02-2007, 09:46 PM
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I believe that God can do anything He wants. He did use a donkey once, so I guess He can use a talking cucumber and a tomato!
Human nature is such as to denigrate and question everything that doesn't fit into your personal mold....some people are going to find themselves in the same place those Jerusalem Jewish elders found themselves in...fighting against God...

If a veggie tale cartoon turn a childs heart toward prayer and seeking the touch of God....why in this world would anyone make a fuss over it. I have heard stories of drunk hearing a country song mention God in a honky tonk and turn to repenting right there....was it not God?

I do not understand this mentality that always wants to judge and question the move of God in another's life just because they may do it differently.
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Pelathais, I sure hope you don't get banned for telling the truth.

I have seen so many lies posted. The best one is the one Triumphant 1 did his best to combat. You know, the hair cutting party thing?

Prominent members of this board chose to believe the lie and even continue to spread it, even though T1 had totally proved it was false.
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Old 10-02-2007, 09:53 PM
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no, he's not rejoicing with you, he's saying you and your nephews have counterfit versions of the holy ghost because you won't say veggietales are evil...
LOL! I said earlier that I couldn't sit through a single episode. I thought I simply had a shorter attention span than an 8 year-old. I didn't realize I was exercising "discernment."

Drink the Kool-Aide E.B. Better yet, the V8!
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Old 10-02-2007, 10:26 PM
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For myself, I've never managed to sit through an entire Veggie Tale. I don't say that to criticize the Veggies, maybe it's a problem with me.

In any event, two of my nephews got the Holy Ghost after a Sunday School outreach that included a couple of Veggie Tales programs.


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Why am I not surprised.
Edited by Admin why do YOU limit God that He cannot use a cartoon.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:25 AM
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How many people do you know who have received the Holy Ghost from watching Veggie Tales? Also since you are asking me to argue this issue with you are you then saying that YOU believe that children and young people can receive the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking with tongues by watching the Veggie Tales?

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I am assuming by your avoidance you have not watched a single one
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  1. There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
  2. The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
  3. Every sinner must repent of their sins.
  4. That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
  5. That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
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Old 10-03-2007, 12:43 AM
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How many people do you know who have received the Holy Ghost from watching Veggie Tales?
I know 2 children that have received the Holy Ghost and 7 children that have been baptized in Jesus name after watching Veggie Tales.

We use a Veggie Tales curriculum in our Sunday school classes and the children watch a short Veggie Tales video about 5-7 min. long each week as an introduction to the lesson.

You can try to tear down their experiences as being less than authentic, but I was there and there is no way that you can convince me that these children did not receive the REAL Holy Ghost or REAL conviction that they needed to be baptized.

No its not all because of Veggie Tales, but God did bless the teaching that took place using this curriculum.
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Old 10-03-2007, 01:39 AM
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You have descecrated the sacred infilling of the Spirit with your cynicism.
Come on already you are not even serious. You know something you individuals are bored out of your minds and keep these conversations going just to have something to do. Desecrated? My lands, no cartoon is causing children to get the Holy Ghost. Sorry, no tongue talking pickles and cabbage.
This conversation is insane.

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A Fred Flinstone Holy GHost suggests kdis were faking it.
No, the adults are faking it the children are sincere. I can totally believe that young people can get the Holy Ghost while the power of God is moving.

Scooby Doo, Papa Smurf, and Judy Jetson will never bring anyone to the power of God and the anointing of the Holy Ghost with the initial evidence of speaking with tongues. Do the Veggie Tales even teach the in filling of the Holy Ghost with tongues? My question is whose Pentecostal Church even was using Veggie Tales to teach the children and then had them pray through?

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IF that isn't blasphemous I don't know what is.
Oh now that's an understatement!

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The reason your comments are repulsive is because I minister to a great group of kids. 90 percent of the kids in our group do not come from the smug self righteous families you seem to feel at home with.
90% of the kids come from family who are trusting you with their children and are under the impression that you are training them in the Word, but instead of that you are teaching them that cucumbers are prophets?

I know a father who found out that his son was watching NEMO while he was in Sunday School, and the father pulled his son and family out of the church that was showing the video. So that indicates that people have desire that those they in trust their children to are bringing something just a tad more spiritual to their young ones.

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Some of the kids I minster to come from abusive situations, from single parent homes. Some have severe behavior problems, others have special needs. A couple kids have autism (btw, they have the Holy Ghost and are baptized in Jesus name.)
So, they need cartoons? This conversation is outlandish. So before the advent of video and television thousands of years prior those people could not be helped? The Gospel speaks of preaching through ministry and apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastor and teachers teaching the scriptures.
It is insanity to think that not only a vegetable teaching children, but one who does not mention JESUS or His Gospel salvation message, you are trying to turn this argument towards a issue to show that I disprove of any kind of children's ministry. When what the first arguments

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God is moving with our children all but one has either the Holy Ghost, baptized in Jesus name and/or both. Two weeks ago we baptized 3 people under the age of 10 in the name of Jesus. (We skipped the Christ and for the remission of sins part because the water was freezing.)

We've used video, television, ice cream, and fireworks for object lessons. We've dropped a pack of mentos down a 2 liter bottle of diet coke and explained how the Holy Ghost works. We used veggie tales story about temptation to teach about repentance, baptism and the infilling of the Holy Ghost.
Then the real test will be how long they remain. So Lord bless you and the children and may the Lord lead them to salvation.

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Don't beat around the bush if you want to call me a liar. I know how legalists work.
And I know how Illegalists over ride the Word of God with their emotions.

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They say it stuff without saying it. Either you think I'm a liar or I'm not.
Let me help you out here, just because someone does not believe a certain report is not necessarily calling the messenger a liar. Now consider this, if a person doesn’t believe something you present you just need to go strengthen your argument and return a re-present your case. If you take everything personally you lose your case and lose your audience. Now if you don’t have a case to prove or the one you are trying to make your presentation to is being unruly then you may tend to mock and use sarcasm. That doesn’t make

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If you got a problem with the methods don't use them.
Why thank you very much, that’s really so kind of you. I will try my very best not to use Veggie Tales or Sponge Bob to convert the lost.



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Time proves all things.

In Jesus name

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