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10-12-2010, 05:35 PM
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Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
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Since both naturalism and humanism exclude God from science or any other active function in the creation or maintenance of life and the universe in general, it is very obvious that their position is nothing but atheism. And atheism, no less than theism, is a religion! Even doctrinaire-atheistic evolutionist Richard Dawkins admits that atheism cannot be proven to be true.
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Henry Morris
Of course we know the approved state religion is secular humanism. Texas recently debated text book standards and rattled the atheists. 39% of Americans believe in evolution. That is very low considering how heavily it is pushed in schools.
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The evolutionist, Richard Dawkins, stated: Suppose we want to suggest, for instance, that life began when both DNA and its protein- based replication machinery spontaneously chanced to come into existence. We can allow ourselves the luxury of such an extravagant theory, provided that the odds against this coincidence occurring on a planet do not exceed 100 billion billion to one” (Dawkins, 1996, pp. 144, 146).
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Even Dawkins refers to faith against the odds of life being self caused.
Recently the politically correct movement was to embrace Islam. What will they do since Islam also rejects Darwinism? The atheists can't get a Muslim science teacher fired.
The goal of the atheirst is to get sceptics fired.
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October 5th, 2010Internationalanti-evolution2010
Gavriel Avital was dismissed from his position as chief scientist in Israel's ministry of education due to his denial of evolution and global warming, according to Haaretz (October 5, 2010). In February 2010, Avital's views sparked a furor; Haaretz (February 21, 2010) quoted him as saying, "If textbooks state explicitly that human beings' origins are to be found with monkeys, I would want students to pursue and grapple with other opinions. ... Part of my responsibility, in light of my position with the Education Ministry, is to examine textbooks and curricula."
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http://ncse.com/news/2010/10/gavriel...-israel-006231
He also didn't buy global warming.
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10-12-2010, 08:10 PM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
It is my opinion that teaching evolution in public schools is the teaching of a specific religious belief the same as teaching creation in 6 literal 24 hour days would be.
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10-13-2010, 01:08 AM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
Evolution is not a religion
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10-13-2010, 08:14 AM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Evolution is not a religion
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In the official journal of the South Australian branch of the Australian Skeptics (this organization has similar aims to American humanist groups), the entire 30 pages of The Southern Skeptic, Volume 2 Number 5, Autumn 1985, were devoted to an attack on the creation science ministry in Australia and the United States. On the last page, we read the following: "Even if all the evidence ended up supporting whichever scientific theories best fitted Genesis, this would only show how clever the old Hebrews were in their use of common sense, or how lucky. It does not need to be explained by unobservable God." These people who vehemently attack the creation ministry in saying we are a religious group are themselves a religions group. They have really said that even if all the evidence supported the book of Genesis they still would not believe it was an authoritative document. They are working from the premise that the Bible is not the Word of God, nor can it ever be. They believe, no matter what the evidence, that there is no God. These same people are most adamant that evolution is a fact.
Evolution is basically a religious philosophy. We in creation ministries are explaining to people that both creation and evolution are religious views of life upon which people build their particular models of philosophy, science or history. The issue, therefore, is not science versus religion, but religion versus religion (the science of one religion versus the science of another religion).
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http://www.creationists.org/evolutio...-religion.html
Yes the Darwinists claim their documents are authoritative and the Christians documents are not.
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10-13-2010, 12:25 PM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
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Stop reading creationists propaganda. Evolution is not a religion. Anyone that says so is being intellectually dishonest about what a religion is.
Creationists do the biggest discredit to themselves when then behave this way
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwinism
Darwinism is a set of movements and concepts related to ideas of transmutation of species or evolution, including ideas with no connection to the work of Charles Darwin. The meaning of Darwinism has changed over time, and varies depending on who is using the term. In the United States, Darwinism is often used by creationists as a pejorative term but in the United Kingdom the term has no negative connotations, being freely used as a short hand for evolutionary theory.
The term was coined by Thomas Henry Huxley in April 1860, and was used to describe evolutionary concepts, including earlier concepts such as Malthusianism and Spencerism. In the late 19th century it came to mean the concept that natural selection was the sole mechanism of evolution, in contrast to Lamarckism, then around 1900 it was eclipsed by Mendelism until the modern evolutionary synthesis unified Darwin's and Gregor Mendel's ideas. As modern evolutionary theory has developed, the term has been associated at times with specific ideas.
While the term has remained in use amongst scientific authors, it is increasingly regarded as an inappropriate description of modern evolutionary theory.For example, Darwin was unfamiliar with the work of Gregor Mendel, having as a result only a vague and inaccurate understanding of heredity, and knew nothing of genetic drift.
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- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-13-2010, 01:19 PM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Stop reading creationists propaganda. Evolution is not a religion. Anyone that says so is being intellectually dishonest about what a religion is.
Creationists do the biggest discredit to themselves when then behave this way
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That is exactly why Evolution is presented as a religion.
Teleology
The study of design or purpose in natural phenomena.
Both the religions of Christianity and naturalism/darwinism offer answers.
How did we come about being here? what is our Purpose and where are we going. Religion discusses teleology.
I have been called intellectually dishonest. Yes I know what i am talking about. I also am not naive regarding the agenda of the evolutionists.
It woulld be dishonest to act like we don't know what is going on.
http://ncse.com/creationism/legal/creationism-law
The goals of Eugenie Scott are to get people fired that mention religion and creation in the classroom. Religion is a threat to the false religion of evolutionism. She names the court cases. It will not get a biiology teacher fired if they attack Religion.
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10-14-2010, 05:15 PM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
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Originally Posted by Sam
It is my opinion that teaching evolution in public schools is the teaching of a specific religious belief the same as teaching creation in 6 literal 24 hour days would be.
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Richard Dawkins: “In the universe of blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, and other people are going to get lucky; and you won’t find any rhyme or reason to it, nor any justice. The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is at the bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good. Nothing but blind pitiless indifference. DNA neither knows nor cares. DNA just is, and we dance to its music.”
[The Selfish Gene (New York: Oxford University Press, 1976), 133.]
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Dawkins is the current leader/spokesman for atheism/evolutionism.
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10-14-2010, 10:04 PM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
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Dawkins is the current leader/spokesman for atheism/evolutionism.
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All true scientists now know that life did not start by itself from nothing. Even Dawkins knows this, though he still does not attribute God as its source, he prefers to attribute it to space aliens.
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10-15-2010, 06:25 AM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
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All true scientists now know that life did not start by itself from nothing. Even Dawkins knows this, though he still does not attribute God as its source, he prefers to attribute it to space aliens.
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Dawkins is offering panspermia. Life forming in space just moves the problem to another planet.
Same way with old earth arguments. It didn't evolve from non life but if given enough time, it could have. Now with strong math probability tests, they need trillions of years.
Can you explain thy the flat earth evolutionists were putting the Miller urey experiment in childrens science text that did claim it was proven life came from non life?
1Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons.
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TJ (now Journal of Creation) 18(2):28–36
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by Jerry Bergman
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Abiogenesis is the theory that under the proper conditions life can arise spontaneously from non-living molecules. One of the most widely cited studies used to support this conclusion is the famous Miller–Urey experiment. Surveys of textbooks find that the Miller–Urey study is the major (or only) research cited to prove abiogenesis. Although widely heralded for decades by the popular press as ‘proving’ that life originated on the early earth entirely under natural conditions, we now realize the experiment actually provided compelling evidence for the opposite conclusion. It is now recognized that this set of experiments has done more to show that abiogenesis on Earth is not possible than to indicate how it could be possible. This paper reviews some of the many problems with this research, which attempted to demonstrate a feasible method of abiogenesis on the early earth.
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The religion of evolution is packed and loaded top to bottom with wishfull thinking. So much goes into the classroom and they use the courts to interfere with people that suggest questioning the brainwashing.
Good students today know biochemistry is much too complex for life to come from nuttin. Miller Urey didn't know that. Pelthais doesn't grasp it.
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10-15-2010, 01:42 PM
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Re: Has evolutionism become a leading religion?
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Originally Posted by coadie
Dawkins is offering panspermia. Life forming in space just moves the problem to another planet.
Same way with old earth arguments. It didn't evolve from non life but if given enough time, it could have. Now with strong math probability tests, they need trillions of years.
Can you explain thy the flat earth evolutionists were putting the Miller urey experiment in childrens science text that did claim it was proven life came from non life?
1Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by giving heed to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons.
First published:
TJ (now Journal of Creation) 18(2):28–36
August 2004
by Jerry Bergman
The religion of evolution is packed and loaded top to bottom with wishfull thinking. So much goes into the classroom and they use the courts to interfere with people that suggest questioning the brainwashing.
Good students today know biochemistry is much too complex for life to come from nuttin. Miller Urey didn't know that. Pelthais doesn't grasp it.
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As I said true scientists, already know that life did not come from nothing, and after the Cambrian discoveries, it is clear that life appeared suddenly far advanced.
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