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Old 06-09-2008, 07:26 PM
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Re: Anyone For Any Interesting Theological Debates

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I don't care who made the sight,don't mean it's wrong
You are right, it does not mean it is wrong. However....if your child needed brain surgery would you let a plumber do the job? These guys are new agers. The authors are not degreed in Hebrew, Greek or anything related to theology


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.Look it up for yourself,different spelling,same pronunciation.

H3442
ישׁוּע
יֵשׁוַּע ‎ yêshûa‛
yah-shoo‘-ah

For 3091 he will save; Jeshua, the name of two Israelites, also of a place in Palestine: - Jeshua.
Oh I agree his name in Aramaic is Yeshua. That is not the problem



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יהושׁע יהושׁוּע
יְהוֹשׁוַּע יְהוֹשׁוַּע ‎ yehôshûa‛ yehôshûa‛
yeh-ho-shoo‘-ah, yeh-ho-shoo‘-ah

From 3068 and 3467 Jehovah-saved; Jehoshua (that is, Joshua), the Jewish leader: - Jehoshua, Jehoshuah, Joshua. Compare 1954 3442
See Yeshua is the shortened version of Yehoshua. But it is NOT the shortened version of Yahowshua...we are talking about that part, not the name of the Messiah



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H3467
ישׁע
יָשַׁע ‎ yâsha‛
yaw-shah‘

A primitive root; properly to be open, wide or free, that is, (by implication) to be safe; causatively to free or succor: - X at all, avenging, defend, deliver (-er), help, preserve, rescue, be safe, bring (having) salvation, save (-iour), get victory.
This isn't the same word...not even close

But the point I am getting at is Y does not equal ye...it equals Y. Sometimes it could be yexxxxxxx or yaxxxxxxx

The above word kinda proves this point
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Re: Anyone For Any Interesting Theological Debates

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You are right, it does not mean it is wrong. However....if your child needed brain surgery would you let a plumber do the job? These guys are new agers. The authors are not degreed in Hebrew, Greek or anything related to theology



Oh I agree his name in Aramaic is Yeshua. That is not the problem




See Yeshua is the shortened version of Yehoshua. But it is NOT the shortened version of Yahowshua...we are talking about that part, not the name of the Messiah




This isn't the same word...not even close

But the point I am getting at is Y does not equal ye...it equals Y. Sometimes it could be yexxxxxxx or yaxxxxxxx

The above word kinda proves this point
I'm not going to keep arguing with you,no use.The only thing i'm saying is the name Yehowshuwa kept getting shorter and down to WHWH.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:07 PM
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I'm not going to keep arguing with you,no use.The only thing i'm saying is the name Yehowshuwa kept getting shorter and down to WHWH.
Im saying it was shortened down to Yeshua not YHWH and they had NO written vowels in Hebrew
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Re: Anyone For Any Interesting Theological Debates

You know what drives me nuts? These original name folks can't even decide among themselves which one they are going to use but they all think they can tell us Jesus users that we're wrong. Go figure!
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You know what drives me nuts? These original name folks can't even decide among themselves which one they are going to use but they all think they can tell us Jesus users that we're wrong. Go figure!
that's true.

BTW the LXX was written a couple hundred years before the NT and the NT authors use it a lot. What word do you all suppose the used for Joshua?
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