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03-16-2009, 07:03 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
There's the rub.
Plus, I think two ladies could be wearing the exact same style of clothing, but with different spirits. In some cases, the clothing is not the issue, it's the attitude of the wearer. Otherwise, there are some objects that are definitely contrary to a spirit of holiness.
What do you think?
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I think you have "gone charismatic". You will find no logic or rhyme or reason for the tradition of Pentecostal legalism in dress code. It is largely based on the traditions of a close religous culture and not clear mandates from the Bible. Once you start questioning them you are on that slippery slope. They cannot be looked at with human logic. They are "pretzel logic" and undestanding pretzel logic is obviously a God given special talent.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-16-2009, 07:19 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by Edward Anglin
There's the rub.
Plus, I think two ladies could be wearing the exact same style of clothing, but with different spirits. In some cases, the clothing is not the issue, it's the attitude of the wearer. Otherwise, there are some objects that are definitely contrary to a spirit of holiness.
What do you think?
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I agree with you, my friend. 
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03-16-2009, 07:04 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
For instance, a Playboy emblem represents a very ungodly system.
IMO, that is an ungodly object, and shouldn't be worn on clothing.
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03-16-2009, 07:05 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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For instance, a Playboy emblem represents a very ungodly system.
IMO, that is an ungodly object, and shouldn't be worn on clothing.
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I actually have a pair of socks with that emblem on them (didn't realize it when I bought them) but since my pants leg covers it up I wear them.
I can't believe you don't like rabbits!!!! 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-16-2009, 07:08 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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I actually have a pair of socks with that emblem on them (didn't realize it when I bought them) but since my pants leg covers it up I wear them.
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Well aren't you just a raging porn supporter! 
I'm tellin' Sister Cee Cee One.
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03-16-2009, 07:10 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Well aren't you just a raging porn supporter!
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The funny thing is that these socks are some of my oldest. Apparently the clothes dryer gremlin who steals socks is Pentecostal and won't touch these and they must be well made because they still don't have any holes in them!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-16-2009, 07:17 PM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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The funny thing is that these socks are some of my oldest. Apparently the clothes dryer gremlin who steals socks is Pentecostal and won't touch these and they must be well made because they still don't have any holes in them!
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Woah, that's some pretty evil socks.
Have you considered it may just be the smell?
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03-16-2009, 07:24 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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The funny thing is that these socks are some of my oldest. Apparently the clothes dryer gremlin who steals socks is Pentecostal and won't touch these and they must be well made because they still don't have any holes in them!
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It's just the opposite. The dryer gremlin is of the debbil and wants you to keep those socks so you can unknowingly continue to promote an ungodly lascivious lifestyle every time you cross your legs.
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03-16-2009, 07:54 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
That's not bait and switch. There is no switch. Peter didn't explain every doctrinal nuance on the day of Pentecost. Look at the other conversion events in Acts...It was enough to get them to repent and convert. You don't need to become a greek scholar or a have a Doctorate in Theoology before converting. So that stuff about standards is unnecessary to teach to a sinner
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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03-16-2009, 08:13 PM
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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
That's not bait and switch. There is no switch. Peter didn't explain every doctrinal nuance on the day of Pentecost. Look at the other conversion events in Acts...It was enough to get them to repent and convert. You don't need to become a greek scholar or a have a Doctorate in Theoology before converting. So that stuff about standards is unnecessary to teach to a sinner
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Kind of like a man on his first, second, or even third date. He doesn't want the girl to hear him fart or belch or anything else unattractive that might keep the relationship from developing further?
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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