I was raised in a denominal church that was emphatic about baptism by immersion.
I learned about the OT washings in secular college classes. Baptism was believed to be a continuation or new connection with those. The man who taught the class was Disciples of Christ. He emphasized (as did the text book he used) that all OT washings were done by immersion.
So I am more interested in this as historiographical than theological.
Go to Biblegateway and run a search on "sprinkl" that way you pull verses with the words "sprinkle" and "sprinkled". You might also want to search the word "pured". The Hebrew for "sprinkle" is essentially meaning "to splash upon", so it doesn't indicate a fine sprinkle but a splashing much like that you would see at the Brazen Laver. When it speaks of "wash" pouring over the hands or feet is typically the meaning.
So technically sprinkling, pouring, and immersion can be referred to as "baptisms". The question remains however, which was most common among the Apostles?
Although Reckart and his cult following would be fun to toss around for the umpteenth time ....
Pray tell about the David Robinson story ....
I don't know how the connection was made, but I believe that it may have come about because Robinson had attended T. D. Jakes' church at some point while he was playing for the Houston NBA team.
Wanting to "look cool and hip" the unknown contributers to the UPC page kept adding his name along with Jakes and Elvis under the "Prominent" heading. That and other quarrels developed into a flame war on the "Discussion" page for contributers. Finally, the editors closed the page for almost a year to allow things to calm down.
I don't know how the connect was made, but I believe that it may have come about because Robinson had attended T. D. Jakes' church at some point while he was playing for the Houston NBA team.
Wanting to "look cool and hip" the unknown contributers to the UPC page kept adding his name along with Jakes and Elvis under the "Prominent" heading. That and other quarrels developed into a flame war on the "Discussion" page for contributers. Finally, the editors closed the page for almost a year to allow things to calm down.
You mean, San Antonio.
I think Dora the Explorere needs to be added to the list.
I think Dora the Explorere needs to be added to the list.
Was Robinson San Antonio? I guess I need to look up the NBA players pages on Wikipedia! LOL.
I dunno how the connection came about then. I just assumed that since Robinson and Jakes kept coming up that they were either connected or thought to be connected.
I agree about Dora - but then again, look at how "Oneness Pentecostals" treated her when she was still just a kid.
If i remember right AD Urshan and another pastor baptized each other in Russia in the early days from his book.
Frank Ewart famously baptized Glen(n) Cook and then was baptized himself by Brother Cook. One source said that which ever one was baptized first was then re-baptized by the other so that they had three dunkings and each could say he was baptized by someone who had been baptized in Jesus' name. Then they began to baptize the crowd of church members present.
Strange, I don't find that quote on the Wikipedia Anabaptist article now.
There was no footnote nor attribution for it - plus, on the edit page it appears as a separate paragraph - an obvious interloper to the context that it tried to fake it's way into.
Wasn't going to last long with those tell tale gaffes. It reminds me of the way the UPC page was shut down for about a year while the "contributers" argued over whether or not NBA star David Robinson was a "Prominent Member of the UPC."
Reckart and his people are notorious also for pasting his name into Wikipedia articles as an "authority" or a "Prominent Member" of Oneness groups. See this old article at Search.com that plagiarizes and yet also preserves old Wikipedia articles http://www.search.com/reference/Oneness_Pentecostalism for example of just how messy these interlopers are.
Yeah, I remember the Reckart wiki's. The uninformed would have thought him right up there with the Urshans and Howard Goss etc. prime mover and shaker of the movement.
THe quote, when it was there though, could have been, and might have been, pasted right out of Marvin Arnold's book "Pentecost before Azusa".
But, and with a big BUT I again say I question the source on both counts.
Was Robinson San Antonio? I guess I need to look up the NBA players pages on Wikipedia! LOL.
I dunno how the connection came about then. I just assumed that since Robinson and Jakes kept coming up that they were either connected or thought to be connected.
I agree about Dora - but then again, look at how "Oneness Pentecostals" treated her when she was still just a kid.
The entire college would have backed his opinions-Disciples of Christ are Campbellites: http://disciplesintl.org/ChurchHistory.html
"The Church of Christ Disciples of Christ began as an organized fellowship in America in the mid-1800s as a branch of the restoration movement. Restorationists sought to restore the church to New Testament teachings and practices by following the Bible as its rule and guide, dropping denominational contrivances such as creeds and non-Biblical rituals. In North Carolina the preaching of James O'Kelly, Barton Stone, Joseph Thomas (the White Pilgrim), and Thomas Campbell delivered the message of Discipleship to the Carolina coast and across to central North Carolina."
Being raised in it, I never heard any other thoughts on the mode of baptism-Jesus name was only a small theological step for me.
More later-no time now.
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That is very interesting. I never thought about mode of baptism-most of my friends were Baptist or Disciples (DoC) or non-denominational baptizing by immersion. So of course we were just right. Never questioned it. I can understand now why I accepted Jesus name baptism so easily, and a little more of why my mom took issue with me being rebaptized though. She is staunch DoC and truly believed I could go to hell for being rebaptized!!
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