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Old 06-04-2012, 12:36 PM
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Uh, so where did you come from?

My mother was 15 when she became pregnant (out of wedlock) with me. My father, who had just robbed a bank, was fleeing the State of California with my mother in the car. A State road block halted the car and my father was taken to jail, after they unloaded their guns on my fathers car.

None of this changes; Man+Woman=Children. Marriage belongs right here, period.
Say you, and some other people. Not all.
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Why do conservatives think that the government has no right to tax a billion dollar corporation with untold millions in tax shelters that it has to pay taxes... but the conservatives think that hte government has a right to tell free Americans who they can marry and who they can't? lol

I want the government out of our private lives and relationships. If I want to remarry... I don't want the GOVERNMENT telling me that I can't. And therefore, I don't think it's right for the government to tell anyone else who they can and/or cannot marry.
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Absolutely not; the decision is up to the couple. If a couple decides to not have any children, this in no way justifies 2 people of the same sex getting married.

The Lawsuits will be piling up. When children grow up in homes where they were adopted by Gay Couples, when they are old enough to ponder what happened to them as a baby, they will be looking for an Attorney. We have enough problems with children going to homes where there are Male and Female Couples.

Remember, I was adopted and know exactly what questions arise when adopted children become adults.
So you would not prohibit straight couples from marrying if they don't intend to have children. And you would not prohibit infertile straight couples from marrying. But you would prohibit gay couples from marrying. And you think this makes sense. OK, got it.
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Why do conservatives think that the government has no right to tax a billion dollar corporation with untold millions in tax shelters that it has to pay taxes... but the conservatives think that hte government has a right to tell free Americans who they can marry and who they can't? lol

I want the government out of our private lives and relationships. If I want to remarry... I don't want the GOVERNMENT telling me that I can't. And therefore, I don't think it's right for the government to tell anyone else who they can and/or cannot marry.
I understand there is a growing contingent of conservatives who are in favor of allowing gay marriage. It does seem to me to be consistent with stated conservative ideals.
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Uh, so where did you come from?

My mother was 15 when she became pregnant (out of wedlock) with me. My father, who had just robbed a bank, was fleeing the State of California with my mother in the car. A State road block halted the car and my father was taken to jail, after they unloaded their guns on my fathers car.

None of this changes; Man+Woman=Children. Marriage belongs right here, period.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say then. It seems you are saying that marriage between a man and a woman is right because they can have children. (For the record I am all in the "Marriage is between a man and a woman" camp myself but NOT for reasons of procreation being required ).
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Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are trying to say then. It seems you are saying that marriage between a man and a woman is right because they can have children. (For the record I am all in the "Marriage is between a man and a woman" camp myself but NOT for reasons of procreation being required ).
I'm not saying procreation is required, only the formula of deciding who qualifies for a legitimate marriage. I argue this issue from a Natural standpoint and that settles it with me. There is no wiggle room.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse.

God gave us Nature to help us to decide what is Natural. 2 men or 2 women being married is not Natural.
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So you would not prohibit straight couples from marrying if they don't intend to have children. And you would not prohibit infertile straight couples from marrying. But you would prohibit gay couples from marrying. And you think this makes sense. OK, got it.
It does make sense; Men+Men=Nothing
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It does make sense; Men+Men=Nothing
I agree with you morally. But we're talking about using the police power of GOVERNMENT to police people's private life choices. My wife left me about three years ago and I've been told that if I remarry I'd be in sin. Of course, that is only one man's interpretation of the texts.

Do you really think that our GOVERNMENT should adopt that man's interpretation of the texts and ban me from remarriage???

Or do I as a sovereign citizen of a free nation have the sovereign right to marry whomever I choose regardless of what some church might think???
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I agree with you morally. But we're talking about using the police power of GOVERNMENT to police people's private life choices. My wife left me about three years ago and I've been told that if I remarry I'd be in sin. Of course, that is only one man's interpretation of the texts.

Do you think that our GOVERNMENT should adopt that man's interpretation of the texts and ban me from remarriage???

Or do I as a sovereign citizen of a free nation have the sovereign right to marry whomever I choose regardless of what some church might think???
Can you marry a child or an animal?
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Old 06-04-2012, 01:30 PM
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Can you marry a child or an animal?
That wasn't my question NotforSale. I'll repeat it for the hard-of-reading.
I agree with you morally. But we're talking about using the police power of GOVERNMENT to police people's private life choices. My wife left me about three years ago and I've been told that if I remarry I'd be in sin. Of course, that is only one man's interpretation of the texts.

Do you really think that our GOVERNMENT should adopt that man's interpretation of the texts and ban me from remarriage???

Or do I as a sovereign citizen of a free nation have the sovereign right to marry whomever I choose regardless of what some church might think???
NotforSale... please answer my questions. Then, I'll gladly answer your questions.

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