Vetting failure led to terrorism?

[Praxeas]

The vetting process?

[shazeep]

the vetting process is why we turned away Anne Frank, Prax.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Seriously, explain how anyone else could be saved, who's not Apostolic.

If salvation wasn't found in this Way, then *I* wouldn't be part of it.

If salvation was found in the Baptist way, then believe I'd be a Baptist.

If salvation was found in the doctrine of John Wesley, I'd be a Wesleyan Methodist.

But I found salvation in the Bible. And lo and behold, so did a lot of other folks. And it includes knowing there is One God, One Faith, One Baptism, One Spirit, One Body. It is in accordance with the doctrine of the apostles of Jesus Christ. It proclaims repentance and remission of sins, in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, it proclaims there is NO salvation (repentance and remission of sins) in ANY OTHER NAME, and it proclaims that repenting and being baptised in THAT ONE, SAVING NAME is where obedience to the gospel begins.

Anything other than what the apostles taught is not real Christianity, and will not save anyone. How could it?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

If salvation wasn't found in this Way, then *I* wouldn't be part of it.

If salvation was found in the Baptist way, then believe I'd be a Baptist.

If salvation was found in the doctrine of John Wesley, I'd be a Wesleyan Methodist.

But I found salvation in the Bible. And lo and behold, so did a lot of other folks. And it includes knowing there is One God, One Faith, One Baptism, One Spirit, One Body. It is in accordance with the doctrine of the apostles of Jesus Christ. It proclaims repentance and remission of sins, in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, it proclaims there is NO salvation (repentance and remission of sins) in ANY OTHER NAME, and it proclaims that repenting and being baptised in THAT ONE, SAVING NAME is where obedience to the gospel begins.

Anything other than what the apostles taught is not real Christianity, and will not save anyone. How could it?

Why do people take this simple conclusion and make it some vague anything-goes issue where the bible statements on these issues don't master?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

JD are Muslims, Jews, Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, and Mormons saved?
If not, why and if yes why?

Also why are you bringing up Elder Epley?

Interesting how I ask questions and instead of answering my questions, you ask me questions. I won't play any games though. You know my online demeanor from my posts. You can tell if I was really trying to be contemptuous.

Elder Epley plainly states all non-Apostolics are going to hell. I don't agree with him on that, but he wouldn't try to make me think that what I have described is all in my head!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Did he have to attend congregations in those states in order to be Apostolic?

No EB. The "he" is me. I was giving you another glimpse of my background as it is pertinent to this part of the conversation.

If I really thought I could have remained with my last Apostolic church without causing confusion, then I would have stayed-- but that's just it, it's been my experience that there isn't room for wavering on "core" Apostolic doctrines among most Apostolics that I have met, which leads me to make the statement that if the Apostolics are right, then the vast majority of Christendom is in burning in hell as we communicate.

But if the Apostolics are wrong, then it will only be by the Grace of God that they will stand shoulder to shoulder with their Trinitarian brothers and sisters in eternity.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

So, allow me to ask this question again? Why do you post on an Apostolic forum when you hold so much contempt for us and our churches?

Looking for converts?

I am here because I want to be here. I actually like it here. You are reading contempt, but there isn't any here-- not in this conversation.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i find no contempt in his post; i don't think any was intended.

He knows none was intended. He knows I am quick to apologize when I have hurt or offended someone. He knows that I don't usually go around making smart aleck posts at the expense of other people.

If he doesn't, he should. How long have I been a member here?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Esaias

If salvation wasn't found in this Way, then *I* wouldn't be part of it.

If salvation was found in the Baptist way, then believe I'd be a Baptist.

If salvation was found in the doctrine of John Wesley, I'd be a Wesleyan Methodist.

But I found salvation in the Bible. And lo and behold, so did a lot of other folks. And it includes knowing there is One God, One Faith, One Baptism, One Spirit, One Body. It is in accordance with the doctrine of the apostles of Jesus Christ. It proclaims repentance and remission of sins, in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST, it proclaims there is NO salvation (repentance and remission of sins) in ANY OTHER NAME, and it proclaims that repenting and being baptised in THAT ONE, SAVING NAME is where obedience to the gospel begins.

Anything other than what the apostles taught is not real Christianity, and will not save anyone. How could it?

Another consistent Apostolic.

If I could have remained a consistent Apostolic, then I would have. However, when I read the Bible, I see a different gospel than what is presented by the Apostolics.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Another consistent Apostolic.

If I could have remained a consistent Apostolic, then I would have. However, when I read the Bible, I see a different gospel than what is presented by the Apostolics.

So then Peter got it wrong in Acts 2? Ananias got it wrong Acts 22? Paul got it wrong in Acts 19?