Planned Parenthood Cleared Of Wrong Doing

[Light]

Originally Posted by n david

Ftr, I believe life begins at conception. But for the libs on here wanting to offer excuses to try and cover the genocide and murder of millions of innocent babies by PP, read what the Bible says, because it will be the judge over all.

Both books of the bible address many wrong doings and sinfull things but it does not address abortion. In the following verses it seems that God is concerned with the life of the mother rather than the fetus

Exo 21:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit ( unborn fetus) depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: (she doesn't die ) he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.( for loss of the fetus)

Exo 21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life, (loss of life of mother)

[n david]

Originally Posted by Light

Both books of the bible address many wrong doings and sinfull things but it does not address abortion.

Wrong.

Thou shalt not kill.

Yet another liberal trying to justify the murder of innocent, unborn babies.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Proves nothing and is a reach. The baby isnt alive during the first trimester. First trimester isnt wrong.

Spoken by a clueless, single, fatherless, and ignorant male.

Again, brain waves at 6 weeks. Heart beats at 18 days. Heart pumps blood at 21 days. Life is in the blood according to the Bible.

At 4 weeks from conception, a baby's eye, ear, and respiratory systems begin to form.

Thumbsucking has been documented at 7 weeks from conception.

At 8 weeks from conception, a baby's heartbeat can be detected by ultrasonic stethoscope.

By 9 weeks from conception, a baby is able to bend her fingers around an object in her hand.

By 11 to 12 weeks from conception, the baby is breathing fluid steadily and continues to do so until birth.

By 11 weeks from conception, a baby can swallow.

Stop trying to justify the murders of innocent, unborn babies.

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

A man has zero say in a womens body and if she keeps a kid. Zero.

Again, words from a single, fatherless and ignorant male. The man is the head of his wife.

[n david]

You liberals want to justify the murder of unborn babies, do it somewhere else. Not on AFF. There should be zero tolerance for your posts or others trying to justify or excuse cold-blooded murder or sacrifices to your false, demonic god, Baal.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by n david

You liberals want to justify the murder of unborn babies, do it somewhere else. Not on AFF. There should be zero tolerance for your posts or others trying to justify or excuse cold-blooded murder or sacrifices to your false, demonic god, Baal.

Lets run through some scenarios using your logic:

1. Mother is told having the baby may kill her. She aborts the baby. Was it mirder?

Yes. Imo self defense doesn't justify killing someone that only has a chance of killing you.

2. Mother is raped. Is it murder to abort that baby?

Yes.

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Sorry but pregnancy and abortion are both special circumstances.

[jfrog]

Ndavid, what If someone left a baby on your door step and there wasn't any social services or anyone that wanted to take it in. Is it murder if you do not care for that baby?

What if there was a chance that the baby had a deadly and contagious disease. Is it murder if you don't care for that baby?

What if caring for that baby would cost you your job and friends? Because you can't afford to work and pay for daycare to take care of the baby while you work?

[n david]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Ndavid, what If someone left a baby on your door step and there wasn't any social services or anyone that wanted to take it in. Is it murder if you do not care for that baby?

What if there was a chance that the baby had a deadly and contagious disease. Is it murder if you don't care for that baby?

What if caring for that baby would cost you your job and friends? Because you can't afford to work and pay for daycare to take care of the baby while you work?

What if...what if. If ands or buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

Yes, absolutely, if a child is placed in your care and you refuse to care for it and allow it to die, you're a murderer.

I don't care if it had a disease. I don't care if it was left on your doorstep. I don't care if you *gasp* lost friends or a job because you're caring for them. Nor any other ridiculous and asinine hypothetical situation you make up.

Do you have kids? From the ignorance of your post, I doubt it.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by n david

What if...what if. If ands or buts were candy and nuts we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

Yes, absolutely, if a child is placed in your care and you refuse to care for it and allow it to die, you're a murderer.

I don't care if it had a disease. I don't care if it was left on your doorstep. I don't care if you *gasp* lost friends or a job because you're caring for them. Nor any other ridiculous and asinine hypothetical situation you make up.

Do you have kids? From the ignorance of your post, I doubt it.

If we did live in such a world I know what I would do with the child if left on my doorstep. I would leave it on ndavids. I can avoid being a murderer and still not have to sacrifice for a kid that is not mine!

[n david]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Lets run through some scenarios using your logic:

1. Mother is told having the baby may kill her. She aborts the baby. Was it mirder?

What is mirder?

And no, it isn't murder to save the life of the mother. And tell me, how many of the millions of abortions which occur are actually due to this reason?

I would bet it's less than .001%.

Originally Posted by jfrog

2. Mother is raped. Is it murder to abort that baby?

Yes. Put the child up for adoption. You don't kill the baby. Again, of the millions of abortions each year, how many are for this reason?

Again, I would bet less than .001%.

Libs LOVE these outlandish scenarios which very rarely happen.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by n david

What is mirder?

And no, it isn't murder to save the life of the mother. And tell me, how many of the millions of abortions which occur are actually due to this reason?

I would bet it's less than .001%.


Yes. Put the child up for adoption. You don't kill the baby. Again, of the millions of abortions each year, how many are for this reason?

Again, I would bet less than .001%.

Libs LOVE these outlandish scenarios which very rarely happen.

Doesn't matter if they happen once or a 1 million times. If it really is murder it's important to consider. If you want to give a pass to the mother in such situations then it's kind of hard to stick to your principled stance that it is murder.