Greeneville, TN Non legalistic Apostolics

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Originally Posted by consapente89

As I told Jermyn....he mistakes literalism for legalism.

Ahhh... exactly.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jfrog

Kind of a lame defense when we are supposed to be special holy ghost filled Christians that have the power....

It's not a defense. It's a refutation of the false claim that OPs have a corner on the "legalism" market.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Esaias

It's not a defense. It's a refutation of the false claim that OPs have a corner on the "legalism" market.

So what if others are legalistic. You have the power. You have the Holy Ghost. The Catholics don't. The Methodists don't. The Baptists don't. There is a higher bar that you have set for yourselves in proclaiming the others lacking the Holy Ghost. Their legalistic behavior can be explained due to their lack of the Holy Ghost power. Apostolics cannot.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jfrog

So what if others are legalistic. You have the power. You have the Holy Ghost. The Catholics don't. The Methodists don't. The Baptists don't. There is a higher bar that you have set for yourselves in proclaiming the others lacking the Holy Ghost. Their legalistic behavior can be explained due to their lack of the Holy Ghost power. Apostolics cannot.

Sigh. "Legalism" is a nonsensical term of no substantive meaning. It means "I don't like those people, cause they say I'm wrong about something, so they are legalists." When someone claims OPs are legalists for standing for their doctrine, as if others aren't, but in reality those others stand on their doctrine just as strongly, thus making EVERYBODY "legalists", it shows the original claim was without merit.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

It means that they view their faulty interpretation of that scripture through the lens of legalism-- if a person isn't baptized in Jesus Name then they are not saved.

In all reality, all Christian baptisms are done in the name of Jesus, or "for his sake". The narrative of Acts does not disclose any oral invocation by those administering baptism, though logically I think it is safe to assume the spoken name of Jesus Christ would have been included in any such invocation. But we err in attaching the oral invocation somehow to the remission of sins rather than the obedient, repentant believer surrendering to the authority (name) of Jesus in baptism. We therefore create a shallow repentance and baptismal experience for them.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Sigh. "Legalism" is a nonsensical term of no substantive meaning. It means "I don't like those people, cause they say I'm wrong about something, so they are legalists." When someone claims OPs are legalists for standing for their doctrine, as if others aren't, but in reality those others stand on their doctrine just as strongly, thus making EVERYBODY "legalists", it shows the original claim was without merit.

During my "journey back" God woke me up at 5am one morning with this revelation about a month ago.

He told me that there is restrictive legalism and permissive legalism and both types are two sides of the same coin.

It is like two lawyers in a courtroom arguing two sides of the same case and the prosecutor starts haranguing the defense and accusing them of being a lawyer.

DUH! Both of them are lawyers just on the opposite sides!

Legalism is a mindset...Not a position of strict rules and standards.

Legalists can either be conservative or liberal BUT being on one side or the other doesn't automatically make you a legalist.

You have good and sincere people on both sides of issues that want to live in peace and be right with God.

[weloveour3sons]

Where would they be located?

[weloveour3sons]

Thank you. We love it here. The mountains are beautiful and the cost of living is good. God is faithful.

[weloveour3sons]

Please don't be mean. I'm just trying to find like-minded folks and I appreciate him getting back with me. My post is not meant to start a debate.

[weloveour3sons]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

During my "journey back" God woke me up at 5am one morning with this revelation about a month ago.

He told me that there is restrictive legalism and permissive legalism and both types are two sides of the same coin.

It is like two lawyers in a courtroom arguing two sides of the same case and the prosecutor starts haranguing the defense and accusing them of being a lawyer.

DUH! Both of them are lawyers just on the opposite sides!

Legalism is a mindset...Not a position of strict rules and standards.

Legalists can either be conservative or liberal BUT being on one side or the other doesn't automatically make you a legalist.

You have good and sincere people on both sides of issues that want to live in peace and be right with God.

I really think you need to find another thread. This thread is looking for like-minded people in my area, not a doctrinal debate. I do believe there are rooms for debate threads. Thank you. Blessings, Becky