If Obama Shared Israeli Intel With Turkey...

[Esaias]

Its like people arguing about the best - or worse - Marvel Comics character.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

As far as "made up" stories, who did Obama have to fire from his Cabinet to avoid the appearance of international impropriety?

Look, you're trying to compare apples and oranges here ... more like barbells and rubber bands.

Had the media been as dishonest and venomous for 8 years against obama as they have been the first few months against Trump, obama would have looked even worse than Trump.

The media wasn't just afraid of being called racists, they were complicit in covering up and shutting down the obama admin scandals.

You can't honestly compare obama with Trump, because the media are proving themselves as left-wing, partisan hacks who will do everything they can to damage Trump.

Had Trump had the affection and adoration of the media as obama did, there wouldn't be a special counsel investigation. There wouldn't be the leaks and crisis we're seeing today.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by n david

Look, you're trying to compare apples and oranges here ... more like barbells and rubber bands.

Had the media been as dishonest and venomous for 8 years against obama as they have been the first few months against Trump, obama would have looked even worse than Trump.

The media wasn't just afraid of being called racists, they were complicit in covering up and shutting down the obama admin scandals.

You can't honestly compare obama with Trump, because the media are proving themselves as left-wing, partisan hacks who will do everything they can to damage Trump.

Had Trump had the affection and adoration of the media as obama did, there wouldn't be a special counsel investigation. There wouldn't be the leaks and crisis we're seeing today.

Knowing the "media" are willing propagandists for the prog commies, it follows that NOTHING they "report" is to be believed. NOT. A. SINGLE. THING.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Aquila

If you look into it, history books are already looking quite favorably with regards to Obama. Things in the works about Trump are, well, not so favorable. lol

History books written by leftists. Who cares what they think?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Am I in the twilight zone or something?

Does anyone else remember discussing with me on this very forum all the VENOM that right-wing talking heads and media types were spewing?

I distinctly remember using the word, "fomenting" as that there were people fomenting irrational fear and disdain for the President.

It wasn't that long ago.

There were people scraping for any and everything to try to malign and discredit the President, his wife, and even his children!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by n david

Look, you're trying to compare apples and oranges here ... more like barbells and rubber bands.

Had the media been as dishonest and venomous for 8 years against obama as they have been the first few months against Trump, obama would have looked even worse than Trump.

The media wasn't just afraid of being called racists, they were complicit in covering up and shutting down the obama admin scandals.

You can't honestly compare obama with Trump, because the media are proving themselves as left-wing, partisan hacks who will do everything they can to damage Trump.

Had Trump had the affection and adoration of the media as obama did, there wouldn't be a special counsel investigation. There wouldn't be the leaks and crisis we're seeing today.

Look. As HARD as many on the right tried to sink Obama, IF he had given them just a quarter of the political ammo that Trump has given, Obama would have been impeached.

Definitely would not have won re-election.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Obama ran a tight ship. He was not perfect by any means, but he had a tight knit team who apparently were not ignorant.

Trump's ship could sink and if it does, it will be because of the CANNONBALLS he has lobbed at his own sails!

He was warned by MULTIPLE people about Flynn.

He speaks and gets basic facts and history wrong, mixed-up.

There are MIDDLE SCHOOLERS who appear to be more responsible with their Twitter accounts than trump!

You want to break out a violin for Trump when most of you were not even willing to toss out a life line to Obama when his character was being drowned in the sea of right-wing media lunacy!

Some people want to make trump a victim!

If he is, he is a victim of his own destruction.

Let the media dig!

If he is innocent, all this will make him stronger.

In fact, if the Democrats are wrong, trump will be politically LEGENDARY!

[Esaias]

Some folks went to the kabuki theater. After the show was over, they refused to leave. Now they're just mumbling while sitting there in the dark, like some Twilight Zone episode.

lol

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Obama ran a tight ship. He was not perfect by any means, but he had a tight knit team who apparently were not ignorant.

Trump's ship could sink and if it does, it will be because of the CANNONBALLS he has lobbed at his own sails!

He was warned by MULTIPLE people about Flynn.

He speaks and gets basic facts and history wrong, mixed-up.

There are MIDDLE SCHOOLERS who appear to be more responsible with their Twitter accounts than trump!

You want to break out a violin for Trump when most of you were not even willing to toss out a life line to Obama when his character was being drowned in the sea of right-wing media lunacy!

Some people want to make trump a victim!

If he is, he is a victim of his own destruction.

Let the media dig!

If he is innocent, all this will make him stronger.

In fact, if the Democrats are wrong, trump will be politically LEGENDARY!

You mean like saying there were 57 states?
Oh snap, that was BHO wasn't it.
All candidates/leaders make snafu's, but the media will trumpet those mistakes by those they dislike and cover up ones by their "darlings".

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

You mean like saying there were 57 states?
Oh snap, that was BHO wasn't it.
All candidates/leaders make snafu's, but the media will trumpet those mistakes by those they dislike and cover up ones by their "darlings".

After all that I have typed, that is the only point you have ANY kind of refutation.

That speaks VOLUMES to me, but maybe not to most here on AFF.

Trump's own loyal supporters have plainly stated, "he doesn't do his homework", "he doesn't study before he speaks", and other similar remarks to dismiss his disregard for accuracy.