My Politics

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Ok, then allow me to present to you your savior, and your idol; the Republican Party. One cannot serve two masters.

Show me my idolatry.

[deacon blues]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

All of humanity owes a debt that we cannot pay.

However, America is not a theocracy and by the Grace of God may we NEVER be a theocracy.

True Christianity thrives best in environments that are not politically favorable for Christ's disciples.

Praying for revival is praying for circumstances that will bring Christians to their knees.


We want Christian revival but we don't want financial trouble, terrorist attacks, or domestic tragedies. Go figure.

Yet we are to pray for our leaders and hope for a quiet and peaceable life. And Christianity thrived in this nation for 175 years and we were blessed as a result. I don't think it's Gods will that we live under oppression or face death for our faith. It happens, and the Word of God continues to be propagated, and certainly those who are oppressed learn to live with a dynamic and pure faith. But I don't believe you have to be oppressed or have to have dangerous opposition to have that kind of faith. It always goes back to personal relationship w Jesus. And even in this land of prosperity there is disease, divorce, financial challenges, family trouble, accidents, injuries, health issues. In this world there is tribulation.

I don't think terrorist attacks or a poor economy is required to have spiritual renewal. Romans 2 says it's the goodness of God that leads to repentance. The greatest problem I believe with the Church in America is that too many preachers and churches have stopped preaching the Gospel. Church is about everything else.

Ultimately the Body of Christ and the local church is Gods mechanism for building His Kingdom. That doesn't mean we should not strive for a more God-fearing, Judeo-Christian influenced country, including our elected officials. The Seculrism of the past 50-60 years that has dominated academia and government and pop culture has perpetuated the myth that government and the public sector should sterilized of and religious/spiritual influence. If that is true, then we should look back at America from 1776-1950 and see what a horrible, ungodly and disastrous nation we were. Instead those were our greatest years, not withstanding major flaws such as slavery, segregation, women not being able to vote, etc. There are plenty of things to point to debunk the idea that America was great, but by comparison? We have been sliding down culturally for the past 60 years, primarily as a result of secular humanism invading the influential institutions of our culture: Government, Academia, Entertainment, and Religion.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Yet we are to pray for our leaders and hope for a quiet and peaceable life. And Christianity thrived in this nation for 175 years and we were blessed as a result. I don't think it's Gods will that we live under oppression or face death for our faith. It happens, and the Word of God continues to be propagated, and certainly those who are oppressed learn to live with a dynamic and pure faith. But I don't believe you have to be oppressed or have to have dangerous opposition to have that kind of faith. It always goes back to personal relationship w Jesus. And even in this land of prosperity there is disease, divorce, financial challenges, family trouble, accidents, injuries, health issues. In this world there is tribulation.

I don't think terrorist attacks or a poor economy is required to have spiritual renewal. Romans 2 says it's the goodness of God that leads to repentance. The greatest problem I believe with the Church in America is that too many preachers and churches have stopped preaching the Gospel. Church is about everything else.

Ultimately the Body of Christ and the local church is Gods mechanism for building His Kingdom. That doesn't mean we should not strive for a more God-fearing, Judeo-Christian influenced country, including our elected officials. The Seculrism of the past 50-60 years that has dominated academia and government and pop culture has perpetuated the myth that government and the public sector should sterilized of and religious/spiritual influence. If that is true, then we should look back at America from 1776-1950 and see what a horrible, ungodly and disastrous nation we were. Instead those were our greatest years, not withstanding major flaws such as slavery, segregation, women not being able to vote, etc. There are plenty of things to point to debunk the idea that America was great, but by comparison? We have been sliding down culturally for the past 60 years, primarily as a result of secular humanism invading the influential institutions of our culture: Government, Academia, Entertainment, and Religion.

From the Day of Pentecost forward, the true Church of Christ has suffered persecution, war, and the threat of death.

American Christians are fat and say we don't need anything.

Many if not most American Christians are in grave danger of not even being Christian and thus hell-bound and deceived.

It is the goodness of God that leads us to repentance, but His GOODNESS that works repentance often has a bitter taste.

Striving to ensure we get the right person in office is not an exercise in futility, but it is not the most efficient way to bring our country back to God.


Legalism never works righteousness. Holiness can't be legislated.

As much as I want good things and easy living, I know that it is for my good when tough times come.

It applies to our country too.


You want to see a nation in revival, look at a nation that ACTUALLY SEES their NEED for The GOD and Savior Jesus Christ.

Too many Americans simply don't see their need for Jesus, and that won't change with the mere electing of conservatives.

[deacon blues]

JD, are you still sticking to your guns about not supporting President Obama in November because of his support of gay marriage a few months back?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by deacon blues

JD, are you still sticking to your guns about not supporting President Obama in November because of his support of gay marriage a few months back?

I haven't participated in any campaign or volunteer activities for him or for Romney. I do not intend to vote for either one of them.

[bbyrd009]

You are a good person, JD; this is evident.
But your signature says it all, in a way that
you won't grasp until you are older, I guess?

I guess that reads terribly, I don't mean to imply
that you aren't mature or anything, but prolly idealistic.
Your Constitutional Rights are in the toilet, and your
Government is currently profiling people who even
mention the Constitution.

Are they all bad people? Certainly not,
but they are attempting to bring about
change for the better by working for Satan?
Do you need to hear it again?
"All these kingdoms you see before You are mine,
to do with as I will; ..."

See that there is a real sense in which if you are
a Rep, and I am a Dem, we have a wall between us,
dividing us from ourselves, and Christ.

The thought experiment is painfully simple;
which political party would Christ belong to?
We have Scripture ref for His treatment of politics,
an easy template to follow--only hugely difficult if one
was raised on every other way.

[bbyrd009]

"I AM a jealous God."