Barkley, Collins, Broussard, Gays and the NBA

[Praxeas]

So..I love NBA Basketball and I was watching as the News "broke" regarding a basketball player admitting publicly he is gay.

I didn't have the same fascination as others. My first thoughts were "so?"...I mean what's the big deal? Haven't we always assumed the NBA has gay players? We also know there are adulterers, drug users and hey they've and some nuts who run into the stands and beat up fans.

My second thought was...yeah? Why does it need to be "exposed"? Do heterosexuals come out and let everyone know they are straight? Of course not so yes I do see this as part of the "agenda" to normalize an aberration. No I did not need to know nor did I care..

Collins came out as a 34 year old gay center...he is also not that great a player and probably won't see many more NBA days, unless some team wants an openly gay man as a novelty or political statement but the fact is he is old and not that good. 34 for most is getting near the end of their career.

Barkley. I respect this man despite our differences politically or religiously but he came out in support of this man and other gays as well as gay marriage but also came out in support of people like me who don't agree with the gay lifestyle.

that leads me to Broussard..another ESPN commentator who flat out on the air confessed he is a Christian and not only disagrees with the gay lifestyle and gay marriage but also addressed how other NBA stars engage in adultery. Well ESPN is sort of backpeddling now to distance itself from Broussard but they can't backpeddle from what Barkley (another ESPN personality) said. He specifically defended Broussard's rights to disagree.

How come it can't be like that across the board? Thumbs up to Broussard and Barkley.

[odooley6985]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

So..I love NBA Basketball and I was watching as the News "broke" regarding a basketball player admitting publicly he is gay.

I didn't have the same fascination as others. My first thoughts were "so?"...I mean what's the big deal? Haven't we always assumed the NBA has gay players? We also know there are adulterers, drug users and hey they've and some nuts who run into the stands and beat up fans.

My second thought was...yeah? Why does it need to be "exposed"? Do heterosexuals come out and let everyone know they are straight? Of course not so yes I do see this as part of the "agenda" to normalize an aberration. No I did not need to know nor did I care..

Collins came out as a 34 year old gay center...he is also not that great a player and probably won't see many more NBA days, unless some team wants an openly gay man as a novelty or political statement but the fact is he is old and not that good. 34 for most is getting near the end of their career.

Barkley. I respect this man despite our differences politically or religiously but he came out in support of this man and other gays as well as gay marriage but also came out in support of people like me who don't agree with the gay lifestyle.

that leads me to Broussard..another ESPN commentator who flat out on the air confessed he is a Christian and not only disagrees with the gay lifestyle and gay marriage but also addressed how other NBA stars engage in adultery. Well ESPN is sort of backpeddling now to distance itself from Broussard but they can't backpeddle from what Barkley (another ESPN personality) said. He specifically defended Broussard's rights to disagree.

How come it can't be like that across the board? Thumbs up to Broussard and Barkley.

I think we can agree and disagree. I just hate how people call others bigots if they dont agree with their lifestyle.

[Precis]

Its not being a bigot or racist to put down the acts or life style of people that are "glbt"!!!!
Your god would not uphold their actions.
He would not watch them play a game.
He would not tell them to live any way they wish.
God would tell you that if you support or condone their in any way to emply their life style is ok then you are one yourself. Read romans chapters 1 and 2.
Apostolics make me sick with their bouble standards.
It is ok to say it is wrong but it is ok to promote it as long as i do not have to make a stand against it.
You oneness set rules for others that stating they are living wrong and then praise them for standing and telling every person about it and say what respect you have for them for making their statement.
You are a foolish person and live contrary to the very scripture you state you live by.
Whatever god states is wrong is wrong and we better not support it.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Precis

Its not being a bigot or racist to put down the acts or life style of people that are "glbt"!!!!
Your god would not uphold their actions.
He would not watch them play a game.
He would not tell them to live any way they wish.
God would tell you that if you support or condone their in any way to emply their life style is ok then you are one yourself. Read romans chapters 1 and 2.
Apostolics make me sick with their bouble standards.
It is ok to say it is wrong but it is ok to promote it as long as i do not have to make a stand against it.
You oneness set rules for others that stating they are living wrong and then praise them for standing and telling every person about it and say what respect you have for them for making their statement.
You are a foolish person and live contrary to the very scripture you state you live by.
Whatever god states is wrong is wrong and we better not support it.

So do you go out of your way to make sure every single dollar you spend goes to a business run by a oneness pentecostal?

If not. . . . . You are supporting EVIL my brutha!

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

So do you go out of your way to make sure every single dollar you spend goes to a business run by a oneness pentecostal?

If not. . . . . You are supporting EVIL my brutha!

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Precis

Its not being a bigot or racist to put down the acts or life style of people that are "glbt"!!!!
Your god would not uphold their actions.
He would not watch them play a game.
He would not tell them to live any way they wish.
God would tell you that if you support or condone their in any way to emply their life style is ok then you are one yourself. Read romans chapters 1 and 2.
Apostolics make me sick with their bouble standards.
It is ok to say it is wrong but it is ok to promote it as long as i do not have to make a stand against it.
You oneness set rules for others that stating they are living wrong and then praise them for standing and telling every person about it and say what respect you have for them for making their statement.
You are a foolish person and live contrary to the very scripture you state you live by.
Whatever god states is wrong is wrong and we better not support it.

I have a number of thoughts concerning you post. The first being that proper grammar, punctuation, spelling, and capitalization are important.

Second, I am not at all certain as to what your post is addressing as nothing in your reply is pertinent to the initial post.

Where was this praise for the homosexual agenda being pushed in this post?
Are you referring to the fact that there was a celebration of tact and courtesy being used by both sides?

If the latter is the case, then you are removed from the bounds of Scripture for it says, "Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man." (Col 4:6) Further, we are also told to use wisdom in how we approach the world with its many sins. When in Athens, Paul did not directly condemn idolatry. Rather, he used their idols to prove a point. By the time he was finished, he had one some away from their idolatry, others who were giving the issue further consideration, and lastly those who chose to remain with their lifestyle.

There is no instance in Scripture that we are called to denigrate and insult those who are outside of the church. Rather, we are to pray for those who we consider enemies, bless those that curse us, live at peace with those around us (if it is at all possible, and not giving any consideration to our own inconveniences).

Your post appears to desire the Apostolic movement to adopt the same attitudes, methods, and aspirations as the Westboro Baptist Church. They are not Christian, Christ-like, or anything to do with Christ. They worship a god of their own making and created after their likeness. There are ways to handle things, but not your methods.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Jay

I have a number of thoughts concerning you post. The first being that proper grammar, punctuation, spelling, and capitalization are important.

Second, I am not at all certain as to what your post is addressing as nothing in your reply is pertinent to the initial post.

Where was this praise for the homosexual agenda being pushed in this post?
Are you referring to the fact that there was a celebration of tact and courtesy being used by both sides?

If the latter is the case, then you are removed from the bounds of Scripture for it says, "Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man." (Col 4:6) Further, we are also told to use wisdom in how we approach the world with its many sins. When in Athens, Paul did not directly condemn idolatry. Rather, he used their idols to prove a point. By the time he was finished, he had one some away from their idolatry, others who were giving the issue further consideration, and lastly those who chose to remain with their lifestyle.

There is no instance in Scripture that we are called to denigrate and insult those who are outside of the church. Rather, we are to pray for those who we consider enemies, bless those that curse us, live at peace with those around us (if it is at all possible, and not giving any consideration to our own inconveniences).

Your post appears to desire the Apostolic movement to adopt the same attitudes, methods, and aspirations as the Westboro Baptist Church. They are not Christian, Christ-like, or anything to do with Christ. They worship a god of their own making and created after their likeness. There are ways to handle things, but not your methods.

Jay this was very good.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Jay

I have a number of thoughts concerning you post. The first being that proper grammar, punctuation, spelling, and capitalization are important.

Second, I am not at all certain as to what your post is addressing as nothing in your reply is pertinent to the initial post.

Where was this praise for the homosexual agenda being pushed in this post?
Are you referring to the fact that there was a celebration of tact and courtesy being used by both sides?

If the latter is the case, then you are removed from the bounds of Scripture for it says, "Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man." (Col 4:6) Further, we are also told to use wisdom in how we approach the world with its many sins. When in Athens, Paul did not directly condemn idolatry. Rather, he used their idols to prove a point. By the time he was finished, he had one some away from their idolatry, others who were giving the issue further consideration, and lastly those who chose to remain with their lifestyle.

There is no instance in Scripture that we are called to denigrate and insult those who are outside of the church. Rather, we are to pray for those who we consider enemies, bless those that curse us, live at peace with those around us (if it is at all possible, and not giving any consideration to our own inconveniences).

Your post appears to desire the Apostolic movement to adopt the same attitudes, methods, and aspirations as the Westboro Baptist Church. They are not Christian, Christ-like, or anything to do with Christ. They worship a god of their own making and created after their likeness. There are ways to handle things, but not your methods.

Where is the double rock smiley?

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Precis

Its not being a bigot or racist to put down the acts or life style of people that are "glbt"!!!!
Your god would not uphold their actions.
He would not watch them play a game.
He would not tell them to live any way they wish.
God would tell you that if you support or condone their in any way to emply their life style is ok then you are one yourself. Read romans chapters 1 and 2.
Apostolics make me sick with their bouble standards.
It is ok to say it is wrong but it is ok to promote it as long as i do not have to make a stand against it.
You oneness set rules for others that stating they are living wrong and then praise them for standing and telling every person about it and say what respect you have for them for making their statement.
You are a foolish person and live contrary to the very scripture you state you live by.
Whatever god states is wrong is wrong and we better not support it.

Hello, Bert!!!!

How you keep getting back in here is a mystery to me!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Hello, Bert!!!!

How you keep getting back in here is a mystery to me!

You're such a scout!!