Can There any more Polls to Throw Doubt on Christ?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by mfblume

You deflected by not dealing with whether or not your morality DECLINED before the previous recent posts were submitted to you, and tried to get off by saying it "CHANGED" and quickly ran off to put accusation against me saying I demand everyone be like me, when that was actually a lie to boot. That is immoral. I do not demand everyone do as I do. You're proving my case.

You waffled in simply not saying, "Yeah I declined in morality." You used the term "changed, "and quickly left that hot potato alone and pointed your finger at me, lying while you were at it. Usually you seem to forthrightly admit things. But this waffling about CHANGE as opposed to DECLINE shows some checkered Belgian pastrywork.

And then you use the lame argument that it was considered immoral for a white person to marry a black person as well, as if to justify cussing or homosexuality, etc. The fact is the bible never spoke against whites marrying blacks, which was shown in the issue with Moses. So your false accusation of guilt by association fails. We're talking about biblical morality. Are there any moral issues in your life that have declined that you agree are genuine examples of a lack of morality, if you can be honest enough to admit so here? Again, cussing? I don't know if you do or not, but, for example, if you honestly believe cussing is immoral and you admit to doing it since you left your faith, unlike the false morality of interracial relationships being wrong, then that would lead to a different conversation than what has been.

Increase in morality is not always present just because it implies stricter standards. But everyone knows morality in the bible is great, and decline from THAT is genuine decline in morality.

But is it not strange that there is never an increase in stricter standards of morality in those who once lived by the bible and left it? It is always a decline. Why never an increase?

Is a longer list of rules better than a shorter list?

[Timmy]

Here is your first mention of my morality:

"You must admit your general morality has fallen sine you quit the church."

This was clearly a jab. Otherwise you wouldn't have said it. You didn't ask if the list of things in my moral code was shorter. You said my "general morality has fallen". Do you deny that you intended that as a criticism? That you meant that my morality was worse?

You say I lied when I said you demand everyone be like you. 1. I didn't say that. 2. What I did say is true, that you require "everyone to do what works for you". Your first knee-jerk was that you didn't require that, but God does. A mere semantic distraction. The very act of stating that what you believe and do is what God requires everyone to believe and do is confirmation that what I said is true. You require it. You believe that everyone must believe what you believe. Stop being so absurd. Did you actually think I meant that you, mfblume, have issued a world-wide decree for everyone to read and obey? No. You don't. You know exactly what I meant.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Here is your first mention of my morality:

"You must admit your general morality has fallen sine you quit the church."

This was clearly a jab. Otherwise you wouldn't have said it. You didn't ask if the list of things in my moral code was shorter. You said my "general morality has fallen". Do you deny that you intended that as a criticism? That you meant that my morality was worse?

You say I lied when I said you demand everyone be like you. 1. I didn't say that. 2. What I did say is true, that you require "everyone to do what works for you". Your first knee-jerk was that you didn't require that, but God does. A mere semantic distraction. The very act of stating that what you believe and do is what God requires everyone to believe and do is confirmation that what I said is true. You require it. You believe that everyone must believe what you believe. Stop being so absurd. Did you actually think I meant that you, mfblume, have issued a world-wide decree for everyone to read and obey? No. You don't. You know exactly what I meant.

I don't require anything. It's your wording that is the issue. One who requires is one who is judge. Evidently require does not mean that to you. Sorry. But it does to me, and so I didnt know exactly what you meant.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I don't require anything. It's your wording that is the issue. One who requires is one who is judge. Evidently require does not mean that to you. Sorry. But it does to me, and so I didnt know exactly what you meant.

Now you do. Awesome. But you know what? I'm tired now. Tired of you.

Ta ta.

[Abiding Now]

Hey, Bro. Blume,

[BrotherEastman]

Originally Posted by Abiding Now

Hey, Bro. Blume,

I love Brother Blume, seeing his teachings and well thought out posts. I love Timmy too, but I do get aggravated at his motives sometimes.