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Old 12-26-2007, 09:50 PM
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Ok let's try this.
http://www.messianicjewish.net/compl...wishbible.html
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:51 PM
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Oh boy.
http://www.messianicjewish.net/jntp/
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More evidence Bro Scott likes to talk to himself.

You know I have to go follow all those links now Brother.

OK, it seems you have a problem. lol

Can I help? What specifically are you looking for?
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:56 PM
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Here is the correct link finally.
http://www.messianicjewish.net/jntp/
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I misspelled messianic.
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I misspelled messianic.
I was just going to suggest that. lol
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Old 12-27-2007, 09:23 AM
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I have just received a copy of the Jewish New Testament which is a translation by David H.Stern it has some interesting things in it concerning 1.COR.11
If you have time, would you mind paraphrasing the "interesting things" in the Jewish New Testament? I would be interested in what it has to say about the hair issue.

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Old 12-27-2007, 11:06 AM
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Basically in a nutshell The Jewish NT. says if a woman is not veiled,let her also have her hair cut short:but if it is shameful for a woman to wear her hair cut short,or to have her head shaved,let her be veiled.
It also says it is degrading for a man to wear long hair,but a woman enchances her appearance by wearing long hair.It says long hair has been given to a woman for a covering.
This is the jest of what is says,I didn't go exactly word for word.
But the Jewish NT. teaches gender distinctions in hair for male and female that's the general idea it conveys.
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Here's an idea. The meaning of the greek word is "razer". Remember Sampson was not to let a razer touch his head? Paul probably took the nazarite vow, which vow says they are to grow their hair long and uncut for the duration of the vow. So they were not to cut it. They were not to shear it or let shears touch it. Shorn is simply the past tense of shear. It does not necessarily have to mean shave till bald or peach fuzz....however we do have to look at the context and Paul was executing his vow. The nazarite vow was ended with the complete removal of the hair
Wow, there are so many inaccuracies in this post I don't know where to start!

For starters, the Greek word for 'shorn' isn't 'razer (or razor)'.

Samson didn't have a Nazarite vow. He was born a Nazarite. There is a difference in the two.

While you are correct that those who were Nazarite or took a vow weren't to cut their hair, when they did, they removed the hair completely (as you state above), not simply had a trim.

Yes, shorn is the past tense of shear, but shear doesn't simply mean 'to cut'. It's a type of cut, and Strong's puts is this way:

of shearing or cutting short the hair of the head

When sheep are shorn, their hair is removed. When hair is cut short, it's considered shorn.

That is not true for anyone who gets a haircut, yet this is what you are suggesting. The verses that refer to Corinthian women having their heads shorn or shaven has nothing to do with a Nazarite vow, nor the customs involved.
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