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Old 07-11-2008, 11:46 AM
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PM.

What you're not seeing is when TB lays his hands on those people he is transferring energy or the shakipat. TB is a New Age practitioner and should be marked as such.

These manifestations that we see these people do mirrors the manifestations of the followers of many New Age movements.

I will post a thread which will show that what we are seeing in Florida mirrors the prophecies of the seers and guros of the New Age Movement.

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That will be interesting!

I am careful to dismiss something as not being a move of God that I'm uncomfortable with. After all, similar bad things were being said about the Azuza Street Revival.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:57 AM
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The only problem I have with that is we are putting God into our mindset.
We are judging him by our thought processes & not by the word.
If his word says be baptized in Jesus name. I believe it.

Remember Uzza & the Ark.
It started to falter while being carried & he reached out steady it with the best of intentions & God smote him!

Why? God having a bad day?
No, he may just be righteous and he means what he says.
I've never smitten my son for disobeying me. I mean what I say, but I'm not nearly as righteous as God is. Do you have to be really, really righteous before you can kill for disobedience?
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:59 AM
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I've never smitten my son for disobeying me. I mean what I say, but I'm not nearly as righteous as God is. Do you have to be really, really righteous before you can kill for disobedience?
True you have never smitten your son, but then you ain't God either.
Didn't Jesus say not to fear man, but fear the one who can cast both your body & soul in hell?
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Old 07-11-2008, 12:00 PM
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True you have never smitten your son, but then you ain't God either.
Didn't Jesus say not to fear man, but fear the one who can cast both your body & soul in hell?
So, not righteous enough to kill my son. Got it, thanks.
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Old 07-11-2008, 12:02 PM
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So, not righteous enough to kill my son. Got it, thanks.
I can't say if you are righteous enough or not, it is a mute point.

It isn't your prerogative!
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:05 PM
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I can't say if you are righteous enough or not, it is a mute point.

It isn't your prerogative!
True. But it seemed like it was your point, in why God killed Uzzah. God is righteous, and meant what He said.
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:09 PM
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True. But it seemed like it was your point, in why God killed Uzzah. God is righteous, and meant what He said.
He has the power & authority, we don't.

We may have the best of intentions, but I think we need to consider his word in what we do.

Could God exclude all those who have not been baptized in Jesus name?
It appears that way from scripture.

Could he let some in because of his grace?

Yes, he is God.

However I don't see that in scripture, so I will go with scripture.

Obey Acts 2:38.
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:10 PM
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Re: BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

Interestingly enough this video was not posted by a Jesus Name One God Apostolic ...

but rather a Trinitarian who does not believe in baptismal regeneration or that phraseology is what effectuates sin remission

... Which should give pause to the fact that no matter the view of what a properly administered baptism should look like or sound like ... there are inherent

problems here w/ this masquerade by TB that tramples on the the sacrifice and blood of the Worthy Lamb of God

Even Elder Epley insists that the one person baptized with the words in Jesus name is a mockery. How ironic that Trinitarians agree w/ you, Elder ...

including those baptized in the name of the Father, Son and BAM!!!

Notwithstanding, the problem here is not that the blood of Jesus is not being effectuated through a properly administered baptism but rather the sacrilege

demonstrated by the baptizer to a solemn Christian ritual that is supposed to be a witness and identification of the Gospel ... HIS DEATH, HIS BURIAL AND HIS

RESURRECTION.

This would be just as reprehensible, irreverent and horrific if he administered the Lord's Supper in like manner ... saying that the bread represents BAM ... and the

wine ... BAM!!!

He has the same spirit and error of those who see the name of Jesus Christ as simply an abracadabra ....

What's also interesting is to hear TB say that there is anointing in the water OR FIRE IN THE TUB ... sounds almost like ...????

He also dunks some more than once ... which was the basis of McAllister's sermon at Arroyo Seco.

The things of God are Holy ... His commandments ... all of them including baptism are holy ....

baptism is into Christ ... it signifies what He's done ... this seems to be about TB and showmanship at least on his end .... and not the authority and power

given by Jesus to baptize in His person, or Name.

We are not baptized to travel... leave self in the water .... etc ... it is a sign of repentance as the video indicated ... it does symbollically represent

the washing of our sins.

That being said ... is a baptism in the name of Jesus less efficacious or less a confession of the true believer if ... the preacher administering is living

in sin ... adultery .... let's say?

Would we tell a true believer that their baptism needs a mulligan, a do over, because of the baptizer's condition if it was properly in administered by our

one of licensed ministers in our our churches that practices our traditions?
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:17 PM
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Re: BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I thought it didn't matter what was said in the tank?

"Bam" would be perfectly acceptable to many on AFF.
Not JUST "BAM" It might have to be Sheeka Boom Ba Bam !
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:05 PM
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There is a difference between God's Spirit and this false spirit/anointing of the apostate church. Todd has been told by his "lord" that this anointing he has was a transferable anointing. There have been people from all over the country and other nations that he has transferred this anointing to in order for them to bring it back to their churches. It wasn't God's anointing he was transferring, but lying spirits of darkness.

The physical manifestations of these spirits were the barking like dogs, vibrating and other bizarre acts seen at these meetings.

Check out what Todd has to say about this annointing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN5UX...ley-videos.htm
I've heard screams like this before, and it's from people who are demon possessed. Listening to that took me right back to an episode we had with people and demon possession at this one church I used to belong to. The screams in this video sound like the screams from Hell to me.
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