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Originally Posted by ForeverBlessed
btw, making the son "God" is making him part of a trinity.... because then you do have God the father... God the son... and God the Holy Ghost...
God is one... is Spirit...just manifested in the Son...
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No it isn't making him part of the Trinity. The Trinity teaches that Father and Son are two distinct Persons equally God.
Oneness does not assert that the Son is another person, which is what you have. In Unitarianism you have two persons. One is God and the other is the Son of God, just a man.
In Trinity you have three persons, the Father, Son and Spirit and all three are God
In Oneness you have One Person who is God and who was made visible, seeable and knowable in a human form.
Jn 1:1-18;
1Tim 3:16.
Col 2:9
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Col 2:9 does not merely say God was in Christ as if God is inside of someone else. It says In Him the fullness of Deity lived "in bodily form"
Col 2:9 For in him all the fullness of deity lives in bodily form,
...and that is supported by Phil 2
Php 2:6 who though he existed in the form of God did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped,
Php 2:7 but emptied himself by taking on the form of a slave, by looking like other men, and by sharing in human nature.
Php 2:8 He humbled himself, by becoming obedient to the point of death — even death on a cross!
He is Deity and Humanity. The question though is not just what is Christ, but WHO is Christ
Joh 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced that he would see my day. He saw it and was glad."
Joh 8:57 So the Jews said to him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?"
Joh 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am."
Joh 8:59 So they picked up stones to throw at him, but Jesus hid himself and went out of the temple.
Joh 1:15 (John bore witness about him, and cried out, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me ranks before me, because he was before me.'")
Joh 20:28 Thomas answered him, "My Lord and my God!"
Isaiah 6:1 Isaiah saw Yahweh. But John says it was Jesus
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Joh 12:34) Then the crowd responded, "We have heard from the law that the Christ will remain forever. How can you say, 'The Son of Man must be lifted up'? Who is this Son of Man?"
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Joh 12:35) Jesus replied, "The light is with you for a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, so that the darkness may not overtake you. The one who walks in the darkness does not know where he is going.
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Joh 12:36) While you have the light, believe in the light, so that you may become sons of light." When Jesus had said these things, he went away and hid himself from them.
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Joh 12:37) Although Jesus had performed so many miraculous signs before them, they still refused to believe in him,
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Joh 12:38) so that the word of Isaiah the prophet would be fulfilled. He said, "Lord, who has believed our message, and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?"
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Joh 12:39) For this reason they could not believe, because again Isaiah said,
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Joh 12:40) "He has blinded their eyes and hardened their heart, so that they would not see with their eyes and understand with their heart, and turn to me, and I would heal them."
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Joh 12:41) Isaiah said these things because he saw Christ's glory, and spoke about him.
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Joh 12:42) Nevertheless, even among the rulers many believed in him, but because of the Pharisees they would not confess Jesus to be the Christ, so that they would not be put out of the synagogue.
The Son is without a doubt human in that He has a human nature. He is a human being, but who was He? He is the same I AM that spoke to Moses. He is the same "He" that Isaiah saw sitting on the throne. He is Immanuel, The God with us.
Most of the acts and scriptures though in the NT pertain to His humanity. He did not come to be boastful of His deity. He came to humble himself to the point of death on the cross and live a human life like us. This is what makes the distinction we see in Father and Son, and the Kenosis plays a part in that.
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