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Old 08-22-2010, 08:33 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre

Also this was the best part of the Transformers 2 movie, IMO
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Old 08-22-2010, 08:36 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre

How about this one by Mars?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EcX4OtLWVs
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Old 08-22-2010, 08:41 PM
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No, but I'll check it out. But this is A CHURCH SONG!!!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sgycukafqQ&feature=av2n
You could spin it that way. It gives a picture of what we all have or are going through
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:26 PM
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we had a good discussion going until it got hijacked with youtube videos
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Bold #1: The gospel has never been nor will be, broken. But its stewards are. You wanna hear the documented statistics? It's NOT a pretty picture. Bottom line? WE'RE LOSING!!!

Bold #2: Motivation is great. Every church is motivated. But motivated enough to actually abandon our WAY outdated tactics that haven't worked since the 1950's? Nope. Not very many. NewSpring is, though. They've baptized thousands and thousands in the last ten years.
The Holy Ghost is an outdated tactic.
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I have seen a lot of tactics. Mormons claim millions of baptisms.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:56 PM
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we had a good discussion going until it got hijacked with youtube videos
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13"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Big churches have good intentions. I suspect the narrow road discussion comes up later?
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Old 08-22-2010, 11:01 PM
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How many are still there. If they're not making disciples, I'm not impressed. Like someone said recently ( I think it was John MacArthur). One of the churches in california claimed to have something like 20,000 new converts over the last 2 or 3 years, yet there church attendence only grew by 120.
That tactic was in the bible. Lot of sowing but some on rocky soil, and most never took root.
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Old 08-22-2010, 11:21 PM
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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre

What's wrong with the kind of music they used to have in churches. This new stuff sometimes makes no sense and why so LOUD?
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I don't know anything about who wrote the songs we do in church, just like I don't know if the food I eat in a chinese restaurant was offered to idols.

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Re: Using secular songs to open service for icebre

I think we can get to far out however winning souls should be our main focus...so in preparing for services we must examine who we are really reaching out to...years ago going into little catholic villages I new a couple little catholic songs that talked only about Jesus sometimes I would sing them...seemed to help me reach new people...
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